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Old 06-01-2008, 09:58 AM
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BUCKNER, India and the ICC

Buckner has consistently made poor decisions against India over the years and yet the ICC has not done anything about it.

This should silence those who always argue that India gets its way with the ICC because of the "money power". If that was true, Buckner would never umpired in a test match involving India in the last 2-3 years...

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Old 06-01-2008, 10:03 AM in reply to Kasamse's post "BUCKNER, India and the ICC"
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Buckner has consistently made poor decisions against India over the years and yet the ICC has not done anything about it.

This should silence those who always argue that India gets its way with the ICC because of the "money power". If that was true, Buckner would never umpired in a test match involving India in the last 2-3 years...

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Prove your accusations

We can all make a comment.

But opinions are like *******s everyone has got one.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:05 AM in reply to acker's post starting "Prove your accusations We can all..."
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Prove your accusations

We can all make a comment.

But opinions are like *******s everyone has got one.
Sachin tendulkar Brisbane 2003-05-4 is one which comes to mind straight away and there are many more

However, the thread is not about accusations it is more about the people who complain that India gets her way because of "money-power", which is obviously not the case.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:12 AM in reply to Kasamse's post starting "Sachin tendulkar Brisbane 2003-05-4 is..."
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Sachin tendulkar Brisbane 2003-05-4 is one which comes to mind straight away and there are many more

However, the thread is not about accusations it is more about the people who complain that India gets her way because of "money-power", which is obviously not the case.
I agree Bucknor and the other geezer had a terrible game

But to argue that it should be declared "a non match" which someone did in one o these numerous threads is going over the top.

And if that was so Kumble and India should have walked off the field and stayed off until the issue was resolved on any one of the previous days their was an issue.

At the end of the day India crumbled losing 3 wickets in 5 balls to Michael Clarke. When they should have held on for a draw.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:01 AM in reply to Kasamse's post "BUCKNER, India and the ICC"
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I feel the problems of this match can be placed squarely at the feet of Mike Proctor. Once he failed to bring Yuvraj Singh to account for obvious dissent in the last test, the precedent was set and it was always going to come back and bite him on the butt.

I cannot for the life of me remember ever seeing such an amount of overt dissent at an umpires decision by so many players in one test. It was absolutely disgraceful.

If the guilty Indian players (RP Singh definitely) are not held to account this time then matters will only get worse. When a player carries on like that, it gives the impression to the crowd that he has suffered a terrible decision. The crowd boos, pressure mounts on the umpires which only makes it harder to make good decisions, and ill-feeling creeps into the game.
The incident that started all this, Yuvraj Singh at the MCG, is a classic example. What made that matter worse was the fact that he was genuinely out.

Sometimes this carrying on can force an umpire to wilt under pressure and cave in to the protagonists.But more often, as was the case in this test, it makes the umpires more determined and stubborn

The Indians got what they asked for this test. It's Karma - the Indians should know all about that
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:21 AM in reply to acker's post starting "I agree Bucknor and the other geezer..."
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... Kumble and India should have walked off the field and stayed off until the issue was resolved ...
Please, no. That happened once before, cost an umpire his job and was one of the darkest days of test cricket in my lifetime. I don't ever want to see that again.
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:36 PM in reply to Kasamse's post "BUCKNER, India and the ICC"
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Thumbs up Best Umpires Not Necessarily Neutral Umpires

kasamse i can understand your feelings,even i am doubly frustrated on some dubious decisions by bucknor.
I believe steve waugh's suggestion of best umpire for the matches rather than neutral will be the perfect answer to this type of controversies
Just read from cricinfo, bucknor may not officiate in next match at perth.(indians officially lodged complained and asked for replacement)
Hope kasamse is happy
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:12 PM in reply to batoutofhell's post "Best Umpires Not Necessarily Neutral..."
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I do think if teams are going to be allowed to pick and choose which umpires should stand we might as well abandon all pretence of neutrality and go back to having the home boards appoint them. I understand India feel aggrieved and they have a right to lodge a protest. They should not have the right to request any specific umpire stand or not stand under the present neutral umpire system in my view.
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:15 PM in reply to Occasional Fan's post starting "I do think if teams are going to be..."
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If that happens then that will suit Australia too. They will not have to deal with Aleem Dhar anymore
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:11 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "If that happens then that will suit..."
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Go back to using our own please then we can use Peter Willey with somebody else in every home test match as Willey is up there with Taufel as being the best there is but he doesn't want all the worldwide travel so dropped off the panel.

At least we would be spared Asad Rauf and Rudi Koertzen.
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