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England v Pakistan - The Oval Test - Result under appeal

In this turbulent week, I am almost reluctant to post this, but it is a legitimate story and it is a point for discussion, I suppose. Pakistan's board has asked for the result of the test match (England won by forfeit) to be changed to a draw or "Match abandoned". See BBC report here. There are no official comments, but there is an unofficial one that the ECB has supported the plea.

Now, if this is not a blatant attempt to re-write history, I'm a Dutchman. Message to PCB: can we PLEASE move on. Message to ECB: is this true?
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:23 PM in reply to Occasional Fan's post "England v Pakistan - The Oval Test -..."
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Its not always the case of moving on.. sometimes justice has to provided even if doesnt matter any more...
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I'll be clearer then: PCB - forget this idiotic appeal. The result is known; the record books are clear; and there are thousands of pages of websites which report what happened. Re-writing history was always difficult, even for Stalin. Now it's impossible.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:58 PM in reply to Occasional Fan's post starting "I'll be clearer then: PCB - forget this..."
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This appeal is even sillier than Lewis Hamilton trying to win the F1 Driver's Campionship through the back door while all the time claiming that he was not interested.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:12 PM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "This appeal is even sillier than Lewis..."
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I don't agree with what they did then, and i don't necessarily agree with changing results.

Bad precedent, and we have already had enough of them in the last week

That said, It's probably a matter of honor for Pakistan.

England still win the series 2-0 (they were not going to win the forfeited game in any case) So if it creates some goodwill, and if England agree (which is a must IMO) then so be it.

I say that England must agree for a reason. Both parties should agree, lest some other nation try the same tact when they feel that they have been hard done by by umpiring decisions.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:38 PM in reply to Occasional Fan's post "England v Pakistan - The Oval Test -..."
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Now, if this is not a blatant attempt to re-write history, I'm a Dutchman[...] Message to PCB: can we PLEASE move on. Message to ECB: is this true?
I wonder about the timing of Pakistan in this one, and if it's true about the ECB - it almost makes me ashamed to be English.

The England team did nothing wrong, there remains doubts about Hair being right or wrong - to bring this up at the same time as the Indo/Aus row IMO seems to put it nicely - strange.

Your link would not work OF, so I am posting another BBC SPORT | Cricket | Pakistan seek Oval result change

To the PCB - yes Pakistan would have won that match - but Inzi pulled out, does it really matter if the result was 1-0 or 2-0, lets put this to sleep NOW.
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Old 13-01-2008, 01:15 PM in reply to Ernest's post starting "I wonder about the timing of Pakistan..."
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The only way to but this to bed if for England to agree, i am afraid. I don't like it, but in the current environment.......

England were never going to win that one, so that should make it all easier to swallow
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If true, this is first-rate nonsense from the PCB (and the ECB too, for going along with it). The contest was decided on the field, correctly, according to the laws governing that particular match - any other result would be a farce.
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The contest was decided on the field, correctly, according to the laws governing that particular match ....

You have it in one Maranello.

What next, the Australians trying to get the 1932-33 Ashes series result annulled because Leg Theory has since been outlawed
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The only way to but this to bed if for England to agree, i am afraid. I don't like it, but in the current environment.......[...]England were never going to win that one, so that should make it all easier to swallow
England were never gong to win that one I agree - so long as the Pakistan team stayed on the field and finished the job.

Again England were never going to win that match by a mile, but then again Pakistan were never going to win the series, so what differerence would changing the result make.

England won that game fair and and square - even though Pakistan were the better side in that match, to overturn that result is setting a dangerous precident - and shame of the ECB for going along with it.
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