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Old 17-01-2008, 10:30 AM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "Sehwag might be given the licence to..."
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Sehwag might be given the licence to have a go tomorrow to see if some useful quick runs can be piled in. There is always a touch of madness to Sehwag's batting and there is the chance that it might come off for a while. But quite a few runs might be scored in that "while"....
Sehwag does not need a license, he always goes after the bowling.

Congrats to Symonds as well. Few people give him credit but he has been the stand out batsman for Aus so far. To think that about a year ago people were asking for Watson to replace him. Well done Symonds. He has proved that he is worth his place in this side. He averages well over 40 now.
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Old 17-01-2008, 11:02 AM in reply to gibbs_fan's post starting "Well what a days cricket. India end on..."
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gibbs_fan;149738]Tait looks to be a liability here.
IMO, Tait is neither as good nor as bad a bowler as opposing factions make him out to be. I think his problem is that he does not do so well under pressure, and he certainly would have been under some coming into this Test in Hogg's place. I think if there is not too much expected of him, he can bowl quite well, as he did on occasion in the World Cup.

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What about Jaffer. He has failed to push on after getting numerous starts. Is it worth a gamble in playing Karthik in the final test.
Agreed. Despite the occasional good score, I do not believe that Jaffer has either the talent or the guts to be a good international player.

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Also, such a big fuss was made about Yuvraj and accommodating him at the expense of the balance of the team. Do you think that this could be a reason for India being 2 down. Yuvraj should not be playing test cricket while the likes of Laxman, Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly are around.
He has not been accommodated for this Test; the latest news is that Yuvraj is injured and so he won't be considered for Adelaide as well.

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Lastly, remember that India's 3 strike bowlers are not even playing here. I believe that Zaheer would have made a huge difference to this Indian team. Sreesanth and Munaf could also have been useful.
The selected three did a good enough job today.
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Old 17-01-2008, 12:49 PM in reply to gibbs_fan's post starting "Well what a days cricket. India end on..."
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[quote=gibbs_fan;149738]Well what a days cricket. India end on 52/1 with a lead of 170.
Credit to India and Kumble for putting in an inspired performance after the incidents during the last test.

Just a few comments.

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Tait looks to be a liability here. I think the Aussies have made a big mistake here and should have selected Hogg.
Yes. A case of the vocal minority winning the day against common sense.
Check out his final over of the day.
10.6 Tait to Pathan, no run, rips it past the outside edge and it's well left, so that's the end of the day This should be the last ball of the day. Tait lost his run-up there, too, so had to pull out of the delivery. Boos ring out
10.6 Tait to Pathan, 1 wide, ...and all for nothing as that was a wide.
10.6 Tait to Pathan, 1 no ball, another no-ball, oh dear, and now he's been told to hurry up so he races back to his mark 10.5 Tait to Pathan, no run, another good bouncer over middle
10.4 Tait to Pathan, no run, banged in a pretty well directed bouncer over leg
10.3 Tait to Pathan, no run, outside off, good length though, that one angling across the left hander as Tait's over the wicket, and the batsman watches it through
10.3 Tait to Pathan, 1 no ball, right up there on off, and defended forward with ease The two batsmen come together, Pathan having a quick chinwag with Sehwag Eek
10.3 Tait to Pathan, 1 wide, very wide down the off-side, bit of a waste of a ball, and it's been called wide, too
10.2 Tait to Pathan, 2 runs, the line's wrong, straightening, and it's easily tucked off the legs in front of square where Jaques does the tidying up Three slips in for Pathan
10.1 Tait to Sehwag, 1 run, on leg, some late movement and Sehwag makes sure to get right over the ball in guiding it to midwicket

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On the another hand, Clarke IMO is the best fast bowler in the world currently. He has been awesome. Did you see his average 20.07. Incredible. This is the first time in a long time that the Aussie bowlers are under extreme pressure. It will be interesting to see how Johnson reacts. Australia will need him to bowl well as Tait is no good.
I don't necessarily agree entirely with this statement. Tait can be fairlyeffective, but only in certain conditions . He is capable of doing damage on a lively wicket with a new ball, and can be quite a handful with the old ball that is reverse swinging. The promblem with selecting him is this.

The new ball only lasts so long. Australia already has openers, so his usefulness in that regard was always going to be nil. If the ball does not reverse, he is also of little use with the old ball. And once again, we already have bowlers that can utilise the old reverse-swinging ball, so use use in that regard was always going to be nil.

Basically, unless he is to be used as a replacement for Lee, it is pointless selecting him.

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What about Jaffer. He has failed to push on after getting numerous starts. Is it worth a gamble in playing Karthik in the final test.
He has made more mistakes with the bat, than Bucknor did as umpire. Seems it is OK to make mistakes........but not if it is an umpire making them against the Indian team.

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Lastly, remember that India's 3 strike bowlers are not even playing here. I believe that Zaheer would have made a huge difference to this Indian team. Sreesanth and Munaf could also have been useful.
As it turns out, not for this test. Pathan and Singh have utilized the swinging conditions magnificently. The display from Pathan in particular has been the best i have seen since Jones' efforts in the 2005 Ashes.

I believe Sreesanth is injured, so that explains his absence. Zaheer, if available, will probably be a good option for Adelaide
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Old 17-01-2008, 01:04 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "[quote=gibbs_fan;149738]Well what a..."
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I will finish by saying that you can not totally write off Australia yet. Ponting's captaincy has been marked by a few famous losses (as Gibbs Fan likes to point out) but also quite a few famous victories against the odds.

That said. I doubt they will chase down more that 350. If the swingers don't get them, Kumble will.
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Old 17-01-2008, 02:16 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "I will finish by saying that you can..."
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I've wondered why Pathans career has been so stop start. I first watched him in an ODI in england (3 match) and he moved the ball around a bit, nippy but not quick, and for a left armer a really nice, loose limbed action, plus he can bat a bit too ! Anyone know why he hasnt been a regular in the test side?

Congrats to kumble as well for 600 wickets.
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Old 17-01-2008, 02:22 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "I will finish by saying that you can..."
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Seamer, I have not pointed out any famous losses of Ponting's.

This batting display shows you just how good Hayden is and the massive impact he makes in this Australian team. I am sure that he would have enjoyed this wicket.

I will never write off the Aussies. With their strong batting line up, India will need to bat them completely out of the game by scoring 400 or more. Having said that, the Aussies will still try to chase down any total. I feel for Rogers though, making his debut in a rare game when Aus is under pressure. If Hayden is fit for the next game surely Rogers will be axed unless the selectors have the marbles to drop Clark (his bowling may just keep him in the side)
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Old 17-01-2008, 08:22 PM in reply to gibbs_fan's post starting "Seamer, I have not pointed out any..."
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The Indian bowlers have done a terrific job of restricting the Aussies and gaining first innings lead for India. It was conventional swing/seam bowling from the top drawer, something not often seen in cricket these days. The Indian bowling attack, pretty much written off before the series started, has done a fantastic job so far. Now it is up to the Indian batsmen to continue the good work.

Although India are in a box seat right now, there is along way to go in this test match and Australia should not be written off yet. Infact I still believe that unless India set Australia a target in excess of 500, Australia are the favourites to win this test match.
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Old 17-01-2008, 09:25 PM in reply to Django's post starting "The Indian bowlers have done a terrific..."
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It's great to see the Indians doing well in this test. Tait looks underdone, Johnson looks to be the real deal when he makes the batsman play, Clark is always good and so is Lee. I hope that they set Australia around 450 to win and really make them earn the record. As we know about the Aussies is that they will always try to win the match so it will hopefully be a great game.
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It's great to see the Indians doing well in this test. Tait looks underdone, Johnson looks to be the real deal when he makes the batsman play, Clark is always good and so is Lee. I hope that they set Australia around 450 to win and really make them earn the record. As we know about the Aussies is that they will always try to win the match so it will hopefully be a great game.
All this talk about Australia chasing 400 and 500 for victory is based on the assumption that India put up a decent score in the second innings. What if Australia bowl India out for around 150 and are left to chase only 250 odd to win the match? With their record in the past few years, I still believe the odds are in favour of Australia to complete victory.
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Rogers will be axed unless the selectors have the marbles to drop Clark (his bowling may just keep him in the side)
For a start his name is spelled Clarke, and for another he is still averaging over 50 in test matches this summer.

Rogers only came in as a short term replacement for Hayden via his injury, Rome wasn't built in a day nor will Rogers test career on the basis of his maiden innings. But having made a better fist of it in the first innings on his home ground would have helped, ball's in Rogers court now to make better of his time in the spotlight in his second innings.

Same goes for Clarke he wont get dropped on this performance, but their is a guy playing for Victoria starting to get a fair bit of notice from the selectors and public down here with some very solid performances. And his brother Michael already bats number four in the test team. His name is David Hussey.
Clarke is safe for now but young Hussey is steadily getting closer to his spot. Pup does not want to many more bad days out to follow this.
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