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Error convinced Gilchrist to quit

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Australia wicket-keeper Adam Gilchrist has revealed his dropped catch off India's VVS Laxman convinced him to retire from international cricket.
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That catch - I watched a replay and I just moved really slow.[...]I realised I didn't have the absolute desperation that you need to continue to maintain your standards.
Sad ending really - shows just how demanding a keepers job is, looks like he played one series to many, I like the way he has been honest about why he has gone.

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Old 29-01-2008, 03:42 AM in reply to Ernest's post "Error convinced Gilchrist to quit"
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Unfortunately a few older players don't analyze their performance in such an unbiased way.

I suppose those few probably don't have Adam Gilchrist's bank balance or future income sources either.

Shame some seem to linger far to long in the game and let their image tarnish.

Sadder that national selectors tend to be over forgiving with some older players affording them opportunities to continue while on a one way downward slide.
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Gilchrist will go down as a legend of the game, the only modern player to change the game of cricket. He brought the crowds back to the cricket in Australia and he will be sadly missed.
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Old 29-01-2008, 07:35 AM in reply to Quagmire's post starting "Gilchrist will go down as a legend of..."
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I am glad he has gone out now in a way.My thoughts about him staying too long were well documented in other threads and i am pleased he has gone out on what looks like his terms.

Thanks for the memories Gilly.
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Old 29-01-2008, 07:38 AM in reply to Quagmire's post starting "Gilchrist will go down as a legend of..."
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Gilchrist will go down as a legend of the game, the only modern player to change the game of cricket. He brought the crowds back to the cricket in Australia and he will be sadly missed.
Very true

Things seemed to get very methodical and predictable between the era of Border and Jones up until Gilly emerged in the late nineties.

Nothing against the Waugh's, Taylor and Bevan but we had such a dominent bowling division it often did not matter much what the opposition made. And Bevan was good but was hardly an excitement machine.

Again well done Gilly, with such a great player I dont think you can over do the pats on the back.
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Gilchrist will go down as a legend of the game, the only modern player to change the game of cricket. He brought the crowds back to the cricket in Australia and he will be sadly missed.
He will go down as a player who changed the way selection commities thought of keepers. Earlier all a keeper had to be good at was keeping. But after gilchirist teams started thinking of wicket keper batsmen.
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Although I totally admit that Gilchrist is a must for any all-time XI as number 7 and WK, it is simply not true to suggest he changed how teams looked at wicket keepers needing to bat. England had this very argument throughout the 70s with the Knott/Taylor debate and West Indies picked Dujon when he was young. During his first half of his career (mirrored pretty much in Gilchrist's ten years) he would average as much as many of the top five batsmen. Between 1981-85, Dujon averaged much more than Haynes and Gomes. England were always trying to get Downton (and Stewart for that matter) in the side because he was the better batsman, and I remember Pakistan did the same thing with Salim Yousuf - surely not picked for his keeping. Did Kurruppu not keep wicket for Sri Lanka also, and they also kept giving the gloves to Tillekaratne??

Gilchrist, a complete legend, but we really do not need to overstate his effect on the game. He did not change the game as a whole, but he DID change individual games in a session like every great all-rounder.
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But he took it to a new level a Wicketkeeper that could make it alone as a batsman.
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But he took it to a new level a Wicketkeeper that could make it alone as a batsman.
Not a new level Q, Alec Stewart average just under 40 (39.54) for England as a keeper/batsman - a record that many so called specialist bats would be envious off.
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But he took it to a new level a Wicketkeeper that could make it alone as a batsman.
Except that Les Ames did exactly the same thing back in the 1930s:
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Ames was a correct player with a fluent classical style; a magnificent driver, especially when moving out to the pitch. When set, he employed the lofted drive over the inner ring of fielders with rare judgement and skill, and he could turn good-length balls into half-volleys on lightning feet. Woe betide any bowler who started dropping short: he would be hammered to the cover boundary, or despatched to leg with powerful hooks or pulls. A superb entertainer, he was popular with spectators up and down the land, but praise or flattery would leave him unmoved: he could never understand what all the fuss was about. Behind the stumps he maintained a consistently high standard. Among his more notable efforts when playing for England were eight dismissals against West Indies at The Oval in 1933, and against South Africa in 1938-39 he conceded only one bye for every 275 balls delivered in the series. On the Bodyline tour he took the thunderbolts of Larwood and Voce with quiet efficiency. His style was unobtrusive; there were no flamboyant gestures. He saw the ball so early that he was invariably in the right position without having to throw himself about. His glovework was neat and economical, his stumpings almost apologetic.
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