Alem Dar

[haseebbutt007]

Umpiring has been a very difficult job . U have to give a decision instantly and only by watching the incident once and also from one angle . I think Aleem Dar has emerged on international seen as a very good umpire . He has constantly been giving the right decions . that is why i have rated him excellent .

[haseebbutt007]

I think there have to be a retiring age for umpires . and I think david and Bucknur r very good umpires but due to their ever increasing age they r making a lot of bad decions . In the Karachi test Buckner gave very bad decions . He was not the same Bucknur that we used to see . So , Icc should think to set a retiring age for umpires.

[Zainub]

Not the first time Yasser people have told me I'm a little too sentimental, but can't help it, I admit, that's a trait true to those my gender, comes in with being a she, free of cost ;-)

Retirement isn't a stigma? Of coarse it is, I'm not here to discuss personal issues by I can't forget my grand dad going through temprary mild depression when he retired. He wouldn't stay in the house for a minute, and eventually strated giving honary lectures in his former almameter thrice a week so desperate was he to keep him self busy. I think it has been proven scientifically too M, somepeople are liable to be affected by retirement more than others. As a matter of fact, I remember reading online one interview of Nasser Hussain (in the Guardian I think) where he said about his retirement something on these lines ...I've been playing cricket for 2 decades now, right from the time I played for Essex under 10s to England, when you are doing something for that long the thought of suddenly giving it up can initially be a little scary...I'm not putting inverted commas because I'm not sure if these were his exact words but it was something on these very lines, although he definately said this: "I have to take cricket out of my system" ...now that's a proof, retirement demands an adjustement, and for some people who can't get over it quickly it can become a stigma.

At a much more personal level, right now I'm just looking forward to turning 18, that would make be eligible to vote, eligible to get my National ID card, and best of all eligible to drive all on my own. Now that would be a big occasion, wouldn't it be?

[Maranello]

Let's agree to disagree :-) I think retirement is not that bad, so much time and one can do whatever one loves with it..

[Zainub]

Originally Posted by Maranello

Let's agree to disagree :-)

For a change you mean

[Occasional Fan]

I haven't seen much of Aleem Dar, so I'm going to have to sit the vote out on his case. I have seen a bit of Shep and Bucknor (although not in the last couple of years) and I have to say that I would rate them as two of the best. However, I've seen a lot of comment, mostly from the fans on messageboards like this one, and relatively less from the professional commentators, which suggests that both may be having a bad time of it lately. No-one can go on forever, of course, other than a High Court judge - unsackable in a lot of countries for very sound constitutional reasons - and I would not be in favour of seeing umpires go on forever if they have clearly passed their prime and if there are others who are more able and at least as willing to do a high pressure job. But mandatory retirement? Not sure - any age you pick will be arbitrary and not everyone goes into the inevitable physical decline at the same point. (I have been wearing specs since I was 20, for instance, but my father, well into his 70s now, can still read the ingredients on a sauce bottle from 20 metres - although the health warnings on cigarette packets apparently are too small for him to manage!)

I think the Elite Panel members are all committed to excellence, and perhaps they could somehow administer themselves - perhaps they already do? Maybe a sub-group made up of the younger umpires could take on a sort of reviewing role: that would certainly require them to mature pretty quickly as well! I would expect that someone of Bucknor's standing would accept it philosophically if the day eventually came when the reviewers - perhaps Taufel, Bowden and Hair to take three highly regarded blokes from today's list? - said "That's enough, Steve". And once the system is there, and all umpires know that they are up for routine assessment by their peers, it just becomes engrained.

[Zainub]

You have mandatory ages for retirement in most professions Occasional, if the ICC sets one for umpires as well, they won't be doing something new.

[vvvrulz]

I think that Aleem Dar is pretty good also. The one umpire who is really faltering right now is Steve Bucknor, he has been making some diabolical calls of late.

[Realcharm]

Dar is a excellent umpire along with Simon Tuffel.

[imaginarydiva]

Yeah i think Dar is doing a fine job.