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| We seem to have two threads going on the batting: my thoughts are at http://www.world-a-team.com/showthre...9132#post29132 It starts "I don't think ANYONE should get on the back of the batsmen for their second innings performance" and ends "When the coach puts his faith in a bowler-led side (5 man attack).. and they land the batsmen in a near-enough impossible situation... start the blame with the bowlers." Sums it up for me: this 2nd innings is as unrepresentative of Pakistan's batting potential as have been the 40-something that England once made (quite memorably) against the WI.. or as the lousy WI total from this spring when Harmison bagged his daft return. |
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| hehehe Grandad Glenn took 8/24... Hehehehehe
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| Did you notice, Beny, the report I placed here: http://www.world-a-team.com/showthread.php?t=1865 Several contributers have suggested that the hostility and aggression of Akhtar makes him a great bowler.. but even a sympathetic judge would struggle to rate him in the same league as Donald in terms of hostility and aggressiion... yet Atherton said he'd rather face Donald than Pollock because Donald gives you more balls to score off.. and that he's rather face Pollock than McGrath.. for the same reason. Batsmen don't particularly relish hostility and aggression.. but they really, really dread quality :-) |
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| Well it's in the stats... Who has a better record? McGrath and Pollock by far but McGrath beats Pollock too.
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| I don't think anybody in their right mind has ever claimed Shoaib to be on a par with either McGrath or Pollock though. He clearly isn't. A lot of Pakistani fans are always comparing him unfavourably with Wasim and Waqar too...erroneously IMO. He should be judged for what he is, and that's a decent fast bowler whose opinion of his own abilities is perhaps just a wee bit over-inflated. Still a good bowler though, however frustrating at times. Last edited by Shaka : 19-12-2004 at 09:14 PM. |
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| Exactly my sentiments. |
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| I don't think Pakistani supporters should get too down about their team because of this result. The commentators remarked that the Pakistani batsmen played too much with an open blade which makes it easy to get nicks on a fast, bouncy wicket. They will learn some batting lessons from this match. The other batting problem Pakistan need to overcome is to occasionally take on the bowlers. Currently, they are batting according to Australia's plan instead of batting to their own plan. They shouldn't allow opposition bowlers to dictate so much. It is risky but playing defensively against Australia doesn't work. Pakistan need to try and put some pressure on the Aust bowlers and fielders. Incidently, McGrath's figures were the 2nd best ever in Aust's Test history. He also has the 4th best figures as well. |
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But in principal you are right, attack is the best form of defence, the trick here is to chose the right balls to try and score of, we need to improve on shot selection, that was a major concern for me in both our innings in Perth. ps: Bob Woolmer, Pakistan's coach, admitted that his side's performance at Perth was so poor that he is contemplating calling in a sports psychologist in a bid to revive the team's spirits. Full report here: Woomer battles Pakistan's 'mental confusion' Quote:
Last edited by Zainub : 20-12-2004 at 08:07 AM. Reason: Adding Woolmer quote/s |
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| "For days we had practiced not playing square of the wicket and leaving the ball. We had talked endlessly about playing in the “V” and building our innings." Oh.. for "days" eh? Nothing quite like having few days to learn how to play Test cricket! If learning to leave well was easy then everyone would do it well.. and Glen McGrath would hardly ever get wickets. Even Thorpe (fantastic square of the wicket, now as patient as any player in the England setup) took a few years to learn to leave well. More to the point... when under huge pressure even experienced players get out that way. I'm all in favour of batsmen forcing the bowlers to bowl at the stumps by leaving anything wide / short.... but {a} that goes against everything these players learn in ODI cricket; and {b} it tends to be the preserve of the "method" players.. like Bailey, Boycott, Gooch, Steve Waugh, Hussain, Kirsten and Richardson.. who all took years to master it. |
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