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Old 30-06-2005, 12:04 PM in reply to The Motherland's post "Warney - The Serial Womaniser - Asset..."
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I think that the alleged affairs coupled with the separation with his wife and children will affect his performance in the Ashes. While i will not say he will be a liability for the Australians, he will not quite be the asset he would have been with an uninterupted build-up.
This whole situation is very depressing really. Princess Dianna and David Beckham come to mind of other victims of the English tabloids. The tabloids can not be blamed as they are there to make money, but rather the masses who crave scandel, whether real or imagined, to spice up there pathetic and boring lives.
Warne should move away from England, and if these women selling their stories for huge sums of money cannot prove the allegations, he should sue the asses off them before he leaves.
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Old 30-06-2005, 12:10 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "I think that the alleged affairs..."
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The tabloids cannot be blamed as they are there to make money, but rather the masses who crave scandel, whether real or imagined, to spice up there pathetic and boring lives.

Warne should move away... and if these women selling their stories for huge sums of money cannot prove the allegations, he should sue the asses off them before he leaves.
And there... I entirely agree with you Seamer.

Despite my distaste in the American style litigious society... Warne should, as you say, if the allegations are unfounded, "sue the asses off them before he leaves."

Perhaps that should be: "before he eats, shoots and leaves."
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Old 30-06-2005, 12:30 PM in reply to Oliver's post starting "And there... I entirely agree with you..."
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Or even "eats, sues and leaves"
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Old 30-06-2005, 12:31 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "I think that the alleged affairs..."
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Princess Dianna and David Beckham come to mind of other victims of the English tabloids.
Don't get me started on these subjects. Both Diana and Beckham were willing to use the papers to their benefit when the going was good, but didn't like it when the papers turned against them. What annoys me more is that editors of the Daily Mail/Express still sell papers through raking over the same dirt of Diana's life that they've raked over for the last 20 years.

I will just point out that Diana was not as saintly as many people tend to suggest - her aura has benefitted from her death in a similar way to John F Kennedy. Kennedy was one of the worst US Presidents of all time - getting them in to Vietnam and doing nothing of any significance in the Civil Rights Movement. Lindon Baines Johnson then introduced all the major civil rights legislation; yet JFK gets credit for Civil Rights and LBJ takes the blame for Vietnam. All because the US papers martyred JFK when he died.
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Old 30-06-2005, 12:40 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "Don't get me started on these subjects...."
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All because the US papers martyred JFK when he died.
All because the Kennedys were practically (in US eyes) Irish royalty, and Johnson - well Johnson isn't a very popular name in Ireland is it?
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Old 30-06-2005, 12:44 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "Don't get me started on these subjects...."
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Don't get me started on these subjects. Both Diana and Beckham were willing to use the papers to their benefit when the going was good, but didn't like it when the papers turned against them. .
I have no arguements with your post Andy.
As i said, my problem is not with the tabloids. I'ts the people who buy and read that rubbish. I mean seriously, they should get a life.
This is not an exclusive English problem either i must say, we have the same drivel down her. I just generally ignore it unless it interferes with the cricket. I am sure English cricket fans would prefer all this to have happened AFTER the ashes as well.
We should be talking about who Warnie bowled, not bonked
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Old 30-06-2005, 12:46 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "I have no arguements with your post..."
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What has the reaction been in Australia about all the Warne break-up stuff?
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Old 30-06-2005, 12:50 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "Don't get me started on these subjects...."
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Don't get me started on these subjects. Both Diana and Beckham were willing to use the papers to their benefit when the going was good, but didn't like it when the papers turned against them.
You are absolutely correct in my opinion. Beckham annoys me so much, he was such a great player back around the late 90's, then he lost it and started concentrating on other things. Ferguson said Beckham was always last to leave the training field, but then suddenly switched to being the first to leave. Over the past few years Beckham has been a shadow of his former self. He takes his England place and captaincy for granted, he thinks his career has been amazing just because of a free-kick against Greece and a penalty against Argentina. Now, no one can get the ball off him when there is a free-kick or penalty to be taken, even though he's missed the last three England penalties he's taken.

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I will just point out that Diana was not as saintly as many people tend to suggest...
I really don't want to start arguing with people on the subject of Diana, but I agree once again Andy. She was really good for the media, pretty, full-of-live, innocent-looking. She was perfect at using the media to make her look good compared to the royals.
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Old 30-06-2005, 01:15 PM in reply to Lemming's post starting "You are absolutely correct in my..."
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You are absolutely correct in my opinion. Beckham annoys me so much, he was such a great player back around the late 90's, then he lost it and started concentrating on other things. Ferguson said Beckham was always last to leave the training field, but then suddenly switched to being the first to leave. Over the past few years Beckham has been a shadow of his former self. He takes his England place and captaincy for granted, he thinks his career has been amazing just because of a free-kick against Greece and a penalty against Argentina. Now, no one can get the ball off him when there is a free-kick or penalty to be taken, even though he's missed the last three England penalties he's taken.
.....most of which is down to Sven (owen could fit into that catagory as well), and really Mr ericcson ISNT a subject you want to get me started on....

We have better players that would work better in a 442 than old golden bollocks but he'll play there until he decides to retire.
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Old 30-06-2005, 01:44 PM in reply to Richie Benauds Love Child's post starting ".....most of which is down to Sven..."
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I don't mind Owen. He has a difficult job getting the ball whacked up to him every two minutes. With the ball at his feet and a goal to shoot at there are few better, it's just he is dwarfed by centre-backs when the long-ball is played into him.

I agree Sven is also to blame for Beckham's attitude. They are like best friends looking out for one another. Sven constantly gives him the captain's arm-band, as well as all the penalties and free-kicks. Beckham sticks up for Sven's rubbish tactics after every match. Beckham gets on my nerves. He is the best free-kick taker, but I'd like to see Rooney have a crack every so often to mix things up a little. But no, Beckham waves him away and skies one.
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