Warney - The Serial Womaniser - Asset or Liability?

[Zainub]

I thought I'd never come across anyone who dislikes Princess Diana. Somehow she's the only Royal I have ever enclined to refer to with her titile. I don't agree with you Andy, I certainly don't. May be I don't know everything but I think she was treated horribly by the media, and the rest of the Royal Family. And even if she used the media to her benefit at times, I can forgive her for all that, the charity work she did was just amazing - she didn't do if for show off or "to make her look better then other royals" , at least that's the impression I got looking at her eyes. I always thought, and still think that she was a genuinely nice person, a really good human being. Perhaps too nice may be. People exploited her.

I have the fullest of sympathy with every celebrity dealing with a marriage break up or even a marriage build up for that matter - these are times when you so need your privacy - more then anything else. This is just a dirty world. I don't even read that stuff that speculates about what's going on other people's married lives. I don't want to know why Llyeton and Kim broke up, or if Angelina Joulie had anything to do with the break up Mr and Mrs Pitt. And I don't have the slightest of clues why anyone would. But then I think , these tabloids make millions out of selling this stuff - there must be poeple out there who like reading about what happening in other people's life. Just that I can't figure out what the motive behind that would be...

On the same basis I refuse to speculate how Warne will be affected by this. I just wish him and Simone well, and their kids too.

[Zainub]

That makes perfect sense to me Lemg. That's exactly what good friends should be like. Always there for each other.

I'm so totaly a Beckham fan.

[Lemming]

The problem with celebrities is they moan when they are in the media BUT then will do anything to get back in again when they are not covered by the tabloids. They demand and take millions for Heat magazine to cover their lush, lavish wedding, where they show off and declare their undying love for one another, they play on their marriage for money. They show off their new-born babies for loads of money. But then when it goes pear-shaped all of a sudden they want their privacy. Well tough! They shouldnt get it! They build themselves into the media, take the benefits then don't want to have people looking at them when it goes wrong. It serves them right in my opinion.

Obviously I'm on about the really big celebrities here, The Beckhams, Pitts, Douglas's and alike. I didn't even know if Warney was married or even had children. He deserves his privacy.

Originally Posted by Zainub Razvi

I'm so totally a Beckham fan.

I'm starting to fall out with you Zainub! I used to be a big Beckham fan until he started putting in half the effort on the pitch then he used to, whilst still demanding £80,000 a week. He got too big for his boots and thought he was too big for Manchester United and I was fully behind Fergie selling him. Beckham's career has gone down since that free-kick against Greece. It's like he felt his career had peaked when he hit it, when he could have done much more. I was disgusted to hear that before the European Championships in 2004 Real Madrid training had consisted of a little bit of 5-a-side, that explained Beckham's complete lack of match-fitness.

I remember Beckham just jogging round in an England shirt for about a year to eighteen months, he only put the effort in to sprint to snatch the ball off Rooney or Scholes to take a free-kick, probably saying "Errrr, remember Greece Paul/Wayne (delete as appropriate)?" pointing at his welded-to-the-arm captain's armband which he sleeps with! Then he was subbed off once and on comes Shaun Wright-Phillips, wanting the ball, wanting to do something for his country, trying his best becasue a cap is sacred. Unfortunately Beckham's celeb-status makes him believe his England place is assured, but even more unfortunately Sven seems to agree.

Sven tries some really stupid things all the time. Stupid tactics, stupid players in stupid positions. If he gives Beckham the captaincy in return Beckham will say "Sven's just trying something different" after every poor performance in friendlies.

I don't deny, Zainub, that friends (like Beckham and Sven undoubtedly are, they must be) should look out for each other. But this is the England international football team, and in my opinion Beckham wasn't always pulling his weight like he should. It's not about friendships here, Sven isn't paid £4,000,000 a year to stick his mates on the right-wing, he's paid that much to give Beckham a kick up the backside and get him being the player he can be!

[Zainub]

I don't think it's all Beck's fault. I'd be first to admit his form hasn't been anything close to what it should have been like - but ...but it's not as bad as everyone keeps gloating about. His free quicks are just as good , and he's still one of the best players going around. It's an admission here. I just totally like him. Now common, he is so cool. I mean his dressing and hair can get all a bit carried away at times - but he can pull of anything. I'd agree that he's past his prime. And that he at times took a few things in his career for granted. But he's not always been as bad people have called him - and sometimes people have very badly singled him out - I mean, common, it's a team sport, I know individuals make mistakes, but eventually, you have to put it down as a collective failure. And one the subject of missed penalties the one in EURO 2004 was on a dodgy surface - that wasn't even his fault.

I don't think we've actually managed to replace him at Old Trafford. I wasn't behind his selling for the record - but I admit I have always been terribly, terribly biased. I just like him too much. Just one of those things. Can't even explain it. I sound so stupid.

[Lemming]

Originally Posted by Zainub Razvi

I sound so stupid.

We'll leave it at that shall we?

[Lemming]

The thing about the missed penalty and dodgy surface is that England had practiced on and complained about the dodgy surface the night before. Up strolls Beckham places the ball down, runs up, leans soooo far back and to the left he slips (on the admittedly, undoubtedly dodgy surface) and then and only then looks down at it. Now, why, oh why, wasn't he more careful when the team knew the night before that the surface was not right? I don't know!

My problem with Beckham was the complete lack of commitment to his football he has suffered over the past few years. He was a great player and is still a top player, but still being a top player doesn't excuse a lack of hard training because he is only preforming at 75%. It's gotten too easy for him to make money elsewhere. I know I wouldn't want to run around kicking a football for six hours every day in the middle of December when I can leave after three hours and stand in a warm bath-room set-up having a shave infront of camera for a Gilette advert. Doesn't make it right though!

[Zainub]

I think we shall leave it at the fact that I sounded stupid. I can live with that.

And speaking of adds, the new pepsi add, with Henry, Becks and Dhino too, the surfing one - oh my God I'm so totally in love with it.

[Junior_Flem]

From the few people I talk to, Warne has got very little sympathy. A number of people say his private life should stay private and that it's none of our business. Another group says the girls he spends "time" with should take some of the blame. I think he's an idiot and deserves whatever he gets. He has three beautiful children. What about them?
That aside, I don't think it will affect his cricket. In fact, he seems to thrive on pressure. Look at how he plays well in the big games. He will want to do well against England and would also be confident, knowing he's got a good record against them over there.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by Junior_Flem

From the few people I talk to, Warne has got very little sympathy. .

If you live in New Zealand, that is no great surprise.

Originally Posted by Junior_Flem

A number of people say his private life should stay private and that it's none of our business. Another group says the girls he spends "time" with should take some of the blame. I think he's an idiot and deserves whatever he gets. He has three beautiful children. What about them?.

You are obviously assuming what those girls are saying is correct. Do you believe everything you read Junior Flem? Particularly tripe published in the English tabloids by women who are recieving huge sums of money to "tell their story". Junior Flem, you would be wise to employ a little cynicism when reading tabloid rubbish like this my friend. People that read tabloid tripe and actually believe it, it must be said, are very gullible and are the very people these tabloids target to make their money.

[Junior_Flem]

Actually I'm Australian. Look at my location!
No, I don't believe every piece of tabloid crap I read. I know better than that. But Warne has a history so there is a likelihood that at least SOME of what has been said is true.
I don't like the tone of your post Seamer. You are clearly underestimating my intelligence. But as I said, I'm Australian and I'm sick of the Warne-soap-opera saga. Most Aussies that I know feel the same. He's an idiot. Simple. That is my opinion and it is not going to change. I've never liked him and I never will.