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Old 08-08-2005, 02:10 PM in reply to greg's post starting "Because we never win there.Why give the..."
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Because we never win there.Why give the opposition a penalty kick to go ahead in a series.We should play to our strengths.Lords is not a strength for us v Australia.
It is this mentallity that has allowed the Aussies to hold the Ashes for so long. There is no reason why England cannot beat the Aussies there except for all this superstitious nonsense that has the English team (and supporters) convinced that they cannot win at Lords. History means nothing. Look at Vaughans record at Lords and look how he went in the first test. It is 11 vs 11 on the day. Put the ball on the right spot when bowling, put the bad balls away and keep out the good ones when batting and you are on your way to winning.
Better hope the English team don't hold those superstitions on always losing Ashes series or they will never win it.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:43 PM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "I don't think we give Gillespie and..."
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I don't think we give Gillespie and Kasprowicz enough credit. McGrath was injured for a year, coinciding with when Warne was suspended. Australia still defeated all comers with Gillespie and Kasper providing a significant cutting edge. What the Aussies are finding at the moment is that Gilly and Kasper are out of form and McGrath injured all at the same time. Once/if Gilly and Kasper find their form, they will show that they are top class bowlers. Write them off at your peril!
They didn't beat India at home without Warne and Mcgrath though. What were Lee's figures then? 4-250 off 40 overs?

Warne missed 12 matches when he was suspended for taking drugs. Of those 12, 4 were against West Indies, 2 against Bangladesh, 2 against Zimbabwe and four against India. I think it's fair to say that the only real tests amongst those matches was those against India (though they still managed to concede a record 4th innings total to WI in a dead rubber - something that would surely not have happened if Warne had been there). And famously, in those matches against India, Australia's second string bowlers came up short.

Mcgrath missed matches through injury at a similar time - 8 coincided with Warne's ban - the first two against WI, the 2 against Zim and 4 against India. He also missed three in Sri Lanka, where his absence was offset by the fact they were playing on subcontinent pitches with two spinners, one of whom was a returning Warne. Basically, in the four most recent matches against quality opposition where Australia have not had Mcgrath or Warne, their support attack has looked weak. Add to this the fifth Test against England in 2003, which both players missed, and I think it's fair to say that Australia's other bowlers - and indeed their batsman - struggle without Mcgrath and Warne.
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:10 AM in reply to Cricket Girl's post starting "They didn't beat India at home without..."
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Since I can't find anything about it on this site yet, Brett Lee has been admitted to hostpital with a knee infection and may be a late scratching from the third Test.

The plot thickens ...
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Old 09-08-2005, 12:13 AM in reply to anthman's post starting "Since I can't find anything about it on..."
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Since I can't find anything about it on this site yet, Brett Lee has been admitted to hostpital with a knee infection...
Try the 'Brett Lee' thread!

http://www.world-a-team.com/showthread.php?t=3880
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:49 AM in reply to Lemming's post starting "Try the 'Brett Lee' thread! ..."
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Wonder when the last time Old Trafford sold out on a day of a Test apart from a Saturday?The crowds there have been very poor in recent years.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:56 PM in reply to anthman's post starting "Since I can't find anything about it on..."
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Brett Lee has been admitted to hostpital with a knee infection and may be a late scratching from the third Test.
The news here has just announced that Stuart Clark is to join the touring squad. Stuart himself seem to think that it was because they were going to play him . Has anyone got recent county stats on him?
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:16 PM in reply to dagonz's post starting "The news here has just announced that..."
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Stuart Rupert Clarke has played one first class match this season for Middlesex. He bolwed a total of 45 overs, 10 of them maidens. 129 runs have been scored off him (2.86 runs per over). He has taken 7 wickets @ 18.42 and has a best bowling performance of 5-61. He takes a wicket every 38.5 balls.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:17 PM in reply to Lemming's post starting "Stuart Rupert Clarke has played one..."
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I don't beieve conclusions about Clark can be drawn from one first class match this year, and I really don't know anything about him. Is it wise to throw him in instead of Tait (despite his atrocities at Durham) or Watson, or even giving Dizzy/Kasper another chance?
 


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