Ashes 3rd test: ratings

[Aussie-Yank]

Trescothick 7 Hayden 4
Strauss 7 Langer 5
Vaughan 9 Ponting 9
Bell 8 Martyn 5
Pietersen 4 Clarke 5
Flintoff 8 Katich 4
Jones 5 Gilchrist 5
Giles 5 Warne 9
Hoggard 4 Gillespie 2
Jones 7 Lee 7
Harmison 5 McGrath 7

England 69, Australia 62

[Kirsty Harris]

Tresco 8 Langer 5
Strauss 7 Hayden 6
Vaughan 9 Ponting 9
Bell 8 Martyn 6
Pietersen 5 Clarke 6
Flintoff 8 Katich 5
G Jones 7 Gilchrist 5
Giles 7 Warne 9
Hoggard 6 Gillespie 3
Harmison 6 Lee 8
S Jones 9 McGrath 6

Total: England 80 Australia 68

[Beny]

Tresco 7 Langer 6
Strauss 8 Hayden 4
Vaughan 8 Ponting 8
Bell 7 Martyn 6
Pietersen 5 Clarke 6
Flintoff 8 Katich 4
G Jones 3 Gilchrist 4
Giles 7 Warne 8
Hoggard 4 Gillespie 2
Harmison 5 Lee 7
S Jones 8 McGrath 7

[Irish Left Armer]

Trescothick 7 - Hayden 4
Strauss 7 - Langer 5
Vaughan 9 - Ponting 9
Bell 8 - Martyn 4
Pieterson 2 - Clarke 5
Flintoff 8 - Katich 2
G. Jones 6 - Gilchrist 2
Giles 6 - Warne 8
Hoggard 5 - Gillespie 2
Harmison 5 - Lee 6
S. Jones 8 - McGrath 7

Eng 71 - Aus 54

[acker]

Trescothick 7 - Hayden 3
Strauss 7 - Langer 5
Vaughan 8 - Ponting 8
Bell 5 - Martyn 3
Pieterson 2 - Clarke 3
Flintoff 7- Katich 1
G. Jones 5- Gilchrist 3
Giles 5 - Warne 8
Hoggard 3 - Gillespie 0
Harmison 5 - Lee 6
S. Jones 7 - McGrath 7

Eng 61 - Aus 47

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by Beny

G Jones 3 Gilchrist 4

Taking Neutrality to a new low level.... No way did Gilchrist have a better game - I could understand if you put them level but there is no way on earth Gilchrist had a better game than Jones

[Collyisamackem]

Gilchrist had the worst game I've ever seen him have for Australia - he dropped nearly everything and failed with the bat.

[Beny]

Are you saying that Gilchrist dropping two catches and making no runs is worse than Jones dropping more catches than I can count and making no runs... How about that missed stumping off Warne, or the dropped catch... I still dont know how he dropped it. Gilly didd'nt have a good game but he only really made two mistakes with the gloves... Jones made heaps of mistakes.

In short... Gilly was poor. Jones was horrible.

[Beny]

Originally Posted by acker 64491

Trescothick 7 - Hayden 3
Strauss 7 - Langer 5
Vaughan 8 - Ponting 8
Bell 5 - Martyn 3
Pieterson 2 - Clarke 3
Flintoff 7- Katich 1
G. Jones 5- Gilchrist 3
Giles 5 - Warne 8
Hoggard 3 - Gillespie 0
Harmison 5 - Lee 6
S. Jones 7 - McGrath 7

Eng 61 - Aus 47

Bell got 5? He was the only person to make two 50's in the match.

Clarke 3? He made a 40 in the second innings and could hardly move in the first.

Jones did better than Gilly?

[Leafy Seadragon]

Based only on what the players did in the context of the match, rather than their capability (otherwise Gilchrist would have been a negative score). I would suggest that five is a pass mark (sorry you don't get three just for being there), 7 a very good performance and 9 outstanding. A pass equates to 90+ runs or five wickets (with a degree of flexibility for how well a player played in the context of the match - ie. bowled very well but didn't get the wickets or bowled like Gillespie but snagged say four)

Trescothick 6 - Hayden 4
Strauss 6 - Langer 3
Vaughan 8 - Ponting 9 (Generous perhaps, but overlooking severe captaincy issues in both cases)
Bell 6 - Martyn 2
Pieterson 1 - Clarke 4
Flintoff 8 - Katich 1
G. Jones 3 - Gilchrist 2
Giles 2 - Warne 9
Hoggard 1 - Gillespie 1 (solely for batting through 111 balls in the 1st)
Harmison 2 - Lee 5
S. Jones 7 - McGrath 6 (bonus 1 for the last overs)

Eng 50 - Aus 45
Flintoff and Jones the pick of the bowlers. Warne the best allrounder, despite Flintoff playing well. Ponting over Vaughan purely in context of most of the innings - get out and the side loses.