Boycott's views on Vaughan's injury

[Vrock]

Irrelevant of Vaughan's form or how well he will bat is that there is still worry from Geoff Boycott that Vaughan won't be fit.

And the longer we have to wait for the return of Vaughan, the more you have to worry.

He wasn't in the Yorkshire side against Warwickshire at the weekend, but he's been in the nets and is running also.

Covering the situation in stating "he's taking no risks" is just really clouding over serious worry that he will accidently fall on cloud and graze his knee.

Will he come back?

[Ernest]

In a pre Test programme on C5 Vaughan was there when Flintoff was being interviewed.

Flintoff said that he was only keeping the job warm for Vaughan, but would like the Job as England captain in the long run.
Michael Vaughan did not look at ease when being inteviewed afterwords, but that was only what I though.

However I think that he will want to try and get fit for Englands tour of Australia, and I think that's crucial, he would be the best man for that job - but in the meantime Flintoff is getting valuable experience.

After that if Vaughan breaks down again - Vaughan for coach?.

I wonder why there is so much mystery over just how fit Vaughan is?.

[Vrock]

Originally Posted by Ernest

However I think that he will want to try and get fit for Englands tour of Australia, and I think that's crucial, he would be the best man for that job

I totally agree, it would be the Vaughan/Ponting war for the second time round and Ponting will certainly feel more pressure facing the captaincy of Vaughan than Flintoff. There is no doubting that.

Originally Posted by Ernest

After that if Vaughan breaks down again - Vaughan for coach?.

He would certainly have a few shots to pass on to the youngsters.

Originally Posted by Ernest

I wonder why there is so much mystery over just how fit Vaughan is?.

Normally injuries like his are pretty straightforward to recover from, but there appears to be extra emphasis on Vaughan being completely ready. I think we can all agree that he is taking a fair while longer than most of us thought in (appearing to be) getting back into action.

And with absolutely no updates of how he's really progressing we can never have any idea of when he will be back.

With Freddie last year we were given a time that he could be back, we continually got updated on how he was recovering and luckily he actually got back to action sooner than expected. We just aren't getting this with Vaughan at all, we just receive lots of "it's coming along" et al.

Doubt is created when you give the chance for doubt, it's the same as not knowing why Marcus Trescothick went home in India. Doubt creates perception, which leads to uncertainty over what appears to be a straightforward recovery. Vaughan appears to be giving us a lot of doubt at the moment.

[greg]

The longer it drags on without him playing the more speculation and doubt there willbe about him ever returning.

You can see the point Boycott is making but i hope he is wrong.

[mudney]

We need Vaugny to be our captain in Australia because he's the one that out thought Ponting last summer. I'm not worrying too much right now, I just want him to be 100% when he does come back, rather than him not be completely fit and break down, resulting in him definitely missing out on the ashes.

I don't think there is any urgent need for him to be back in the next couple of months or so, Freddie is holding the fort pretty well, but I would rather see Vaughany at the helm in Australia because of his ability to make good decisions when the game isn't going our way.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by mudney

We need Vaugny to be our captain in Australia because he's the one that out thought Ponting last summer. .

I thinks Vaughan's captaincy was OK (a little to defensive maybe) and made sound decisions while keeping a cool head under pressure. But it was some devistating bowling spells, in particular by Flintoff and Jones, that won the ashes - not remarkable captaincy. Vaughan did enjoy a remarkable run of luck to be sure such as the toss of the coin 4-1, but he could just as easily have a bad run of luck when/if he gets down here.
I myself fervently pray he does tour. He is the big weak link in the English outfit - poor fielder, below average batsman. I have a funny feeling he will rule himself out of the Ashes to preserve his reputation and to avoid being the man who won - then lost - the Ashes.

[Mongoose]

Originally Posted by Seamer

I have a funny feeling he will rule himself out of the Ashes to preserve his reputation and to avoid being the man who won - then lost - the Ashes.

You misunderstand Michael Vaughan. He's a much tougher character than the laid back exterior implies. It's no coincidence that England have developed a knack for winning games with Vaughan at the helm. And while excellent bowling was a major factor in the Ashes success, guys like Martyn and Gilchrist often got out playing fristrated shots, after Vaughan had stifled their scoring options through good field placings.

[Trescothick]

Originally Posted by Seamer

Vaughan did enjoy a remarkable run of luck to be sure such as the toss of the coin 4-1, but he could just as easily have a bad run of luck when/if he gets down here.

3-2 wasn't it Seamer?? Aussies won Lords and Edgbaston, Ponting just made the wrong decision... It seems the luck started with the Aussies, but turned on them at the end

[Collyisamackem]

Without reading that I assume Boycs is saying "Eh bah gum, not as fit as they used to be, won't be fit, no chance, bah humbug etc...".

Accurate or not?

[greg]

Originally Posted by Seamer

I have a funny feeling he will rule himself out of the Ashes to preserve his reputation and to avoid being the man who won - then lost - the Ashes.

No it will be Ponting who will be the man who lost them after so long and then failed to wion them back on home soil.