The Aussie Ashes Thread

[Mr Hutt]

Originally Posted by Notts Exile

Where to start?

348 is not more than 7 an over. If you're going to slate the England team, as it appears you will do as much as possible, please get your facts right.

Yes, KP failed. This was one innings. These things happen, to every batsman.

The Aussies are right on the money are they? None of those will play at Brisbane, so that's a fairly irrelevant comment. We played against a bunch of upstarts who were very much up for it. The Test team will be full of the oldies we played last year!

first of all Notts im not slating anyone, i was merely stating the positives that the Aussie team can take from this

Secondly 348 runs in 50 overs makes for almost 7 an over.. 7x5=35 am i wrong??

and last but not the least, maybe these players wont play at brisbane but the england team will play with most of these players wont they?? so it could be an indicator of things to come.

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by Mr Hutt

but the england team will play with most of these players wont they?? so it could be an indicator of things to come.

Not with you here, so it was a good run out for the Aussies by not playing any of the team that will play in the first Test!! I don't get it?

This XI was a young hungry XI, the team that will play in the first test will be the predominantly the Dad's Army we beat in 2005. I can practically guarantee that none of the players on show today will play in any of the Tests, so what have the Aussies actually learnt about their players, nothing!!

[Mr Hutt]

"Shaun Tait stormed into the first Test calculations with a withering fast bowling performance as England XI succumbed to a 166-run defeat in their opening Ashes tour match at the Manuka Oval in Canberra"

this is from the cricinfo article linked below

http://content-pak.cricinfo.com/ausv...ry/267402.html

they might play him in the first test now, maybe the australians wanted to test all the hungry startups you talk about to see if they can find a new star just in time for the first test? If nothing else is gained perhaps the Aussie bowlers can now send down a few short ones in the first test, England players seem to have a problem with those right now

[flanflinger]

What Cricinfo reports and what the selectors think are two different issues!!

Take the last Ashes.. batsman inform Hussey was sent home, Tait only got into the Test team, despite Gilly's form until the fourth Test.

Or earlier this year Johnson outbowls everyone else, but still gets sent home (as planned) and only get's called into the Champions Trophy because of an injury!! Despite bowling really well, doesn't make the XI for the final!!

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/iccct...ry/259783.html

The Aussies selectors have a track record of sticking to the plan. Shaun Tait, I doubt, is in that plan...

[greg]

The problems with the short stuff will probably be because most of the team have been playing in India where the pitches were totally different.

Give them a couple of weeks and they will hopefully be fine.I think the Aussie batsmen will have just as much of a problem with a fired up Harmison and Flintoff bowling at over 90mph.

[Mr Hutt]

well i guess we will both find out soon enough

the three days match should be interesting.. thats coming up as well.. this was after all in a format the Englsh side arent too fond of playing, so the 3 day match will be more of a tipper i think, lets see.

http://blogs.cricinfo.com/ashesbuzz/
Very interesting comments by Tim here on Cricinfo... i have to say if fletcher plays giles instead of Monty it will blow up in his face in the first test.

[KennyG]

Will England play 2 spinners?




If they do they will be in trouble.
Spinnin decks + Warne & MacGill = Ashes returning to their natural home.

[greg]

Originally Posted by KennyG

Spinnin decks + Warne & MacGill = Ashes returning to their natural home.

I think you will find their natural home is in London.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by KennyG

Will England play 2 spinners?
If they do they will be in trouble.
Spinnin decks + Warne & MacGill = Ashes returning to their natural home.

This series will be decided by spin i think. While some English seem to have visions of hard fast bouncy wickets, they will notice from the second test onwards that they are heartbreak wickets for fast bowlers. The fast men will still take wickets for sure, but they will not be blasting them out with ease.

As to the merits of the spinners. Warne will trouble England as always, but will McGill if he plays? I doubt England will be particularly fearful of McGill to be honest. The Aussies will not be fearful of Giles either, but this Panaser guy will be an X factor. Potentially, England could well match us in the spinners department is my conclusion.

[outswing]

i agree with you when you say that Monty Panesar can be an unknown quantity, but given the circumstances he will be thrust into, he could go either ways. He could either have a blinding tour, and come up with important break throughs, or, he could get a it of a whipping at the hands of players who are used to dishing out such treatment.

Plus the Aussie fans could start to get on his back, and, that could get to him, at such an early age of his career.

But i dont agree with you when you say that England can match Australia in the spin department. As good as Monty is, i dont think even a team full of english spinners could match Shane Warne on his own in the spin department.

Surely Shane Warne'e performance hold the key for Australia.