The Aussie Ashes Thread

[SixandOut]

Originally Posted by Mr Hutt

Secondly 348 runs in 50 overs makes for almost 7 an over.. 7x5=35 am i wrong??

You said more than 7 runs per over every over. So actually by your calculations it was never more than 7 runs an over in any over. The average is obviously a skewed stat, since the true innings average will likely have been between 5-6 runs an over with the odd very expensive over skewing upwards.

I'm not reading too much in to this match. First game of a series in new conditions, blah blah. It's no wonder everyone's a bit stiff. Sure, it would have been good to hammer them, but I'd rather they save their form for the tests!

[Mr Hutt]

hmmm nit picking are we?? six and out... well around 7 runs an over for a score of around 348!!!! is not really giving runs at a miserly rate either... still it was an ODI match and a practice one at that... so lets leave it be for right now

[KennyG]

As to the merits of the spinners. Warne will trouble England as always, but will McGill if he plays? I doubt England will be particularly fearful of McGill to be honest. The Aussies will not be fearful of Giles either, but this Panaser guy will be an X factor. Potentially, England could well match us in the spinners department is my conclusion.

MacGills record vs England.
6 tests.39 wickets at 24.72.

[KennyG]

Originally Posted by greg

I think you will find their natural home is in London.

Sorry, I meant their spiritual home.

[Seamer]

Originally Posted by KennyG

MacGills record vs England.
6 tests.39 wickets at 24.72.

Yes but of those 39 wickets, only three of them have been taken against current players (Hoggard 2, Trescothic 1). I don't think the current crop of English players can be compared to their inept predecesors. Strauss, Tresco, Pietersen, Flintoff - those guys are good players of spin.
I'm not saying MacGill would not enjoy success against England this summer -i think he would (especially against their tailenders) but i don't think the English team particularly fear him.

[Mr Hutt]

Well Jaques has struck another magnificent 100 against england in the three day match... and the first day end score was 325/5 NSW looking right on top of things.. I think a score of around 450-500 should be a good target to set?

[Clive Dunn]

I tend to agree with Seamer, the English batsmen won't fear MacGill the way they obviously do Warne. MacGill is a very, very good leggie, but he tends to give you a four ball an over - most of our batsmen are pretty aggressive so it's a matter of not letting him get away with the bad ball.

Still I tend to think that the MacGill / Warne partnership can be very successful - they are very different types of spinner. Warne gets wickets from vicious spin and unerring accuracy, MacGill gets them mostly from his googly. Should be an interesting battle.

[Occasional Fan]

I'm between Clive and Seamer on this one. The England batsmen won't fear Macgill. But they don't fear Shane Warne either. They'll give him a lot of respect - anyone would be mad not to - but fear is a word which dropped out of the England team's vocabulary in the northern summer of 2005.

[Colourful Chaddi]

Originally Posted by Mr Hutt

A thread where all Aussie fans and supporters can discuss their Ashes issues.... Pommy threads tend to get a little... how shall we call it verbose? lol

join up and make yself count here..!!!

If this thread is for Aussies, shouldn't it be in the Australian forum?

[KennyG]

Originally Posted by Clive Dunn

Still I tend to think that the MacGill / Warne partnership can be very successful - they are very different types of spinner. Warne gets wickets from vicious spin and unerring accuracy, MacGill gets them mostly from his googly. Should be an interesting battle.

MacGill spins it way more than Warne.When they play together MacGill nearly always does better.Opp batsmen go for him instead Warne.If MacGill plays as much as Warne I reckon he will have better figures.As for the current crop of pom batsmen being good players of spin have a look at Warnes 2005 series.


5 tests,40 wickets at 19.93.