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Old 01-01-2005, 09:55 PM in reply to R W S's post starting "No again No and finally No! Sorry..."
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I won't get involved in this as I'm qualified already, but in case any England residents are interested, this is the time of year that umpiring courses start up across the country. There will be at least one course in each county and this constitutes 2 hours on an evening once a week (in general) with exams in March. PM me if you want any details of local ACU&S (association of cricket umpires and scores) representatives.
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Old 02-01-2005, 12:44 PM in reply to Paoli's post starting "You're a cricket buff lol R W S.. I..."
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3. Captain
If at any time the captain is not available, a deputy shall act for him.
(a) If a captain is not available during the period in which the toss is to take place, then the deputy must be responsible for the nomination of the players, if this has not already been done, and for the toss. See 2 above and Law 12.4 (The toss).

(b) At any time after the toss, the deputy must be one of the nominated players.
So, the deputy must make the toss....and he must be responsible for nominating the players
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Old 02-01-2005, 12:47 PM in reply to Paoli's post starting "So, the deputy must make the..."
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And the last one....he must be one of the nominated players!!

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Old 19-01-2005, 04:15 PM in reply to Paoli's post starting "You're a cricket buff lol R W S.. I..."
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RWS adds his official answer

If a Captain is not available during the period in which the toss for innings must take place:

(a) Who is allowed to make the toss?
(b) What else must this person do PRIOR to the actual toss?
(c) What stipulation is placed on this person if, after making the toss, he needs to be involved in any further decision making?


(a) If at any time the captain is not available, a deputy shall act for him.If a captain is not available during the period in which the toss is to take place, then the deputy must be responsible for the nomination of the players, if this has not already been done, and for the toss.
(b) Each captain or his deputy shall nominate his players in writing to one of the umpires before the toss. No player may be changed after the nomination without the consent (get it in writing!)of the opposing captain.
(c)At any time after the toss, the deputy must be one of the nominated players.

I assume the deputy has to ensure 'the spirit of the game'and that the
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42 1. Fair and unfair play – responsibility of captains
'The responsibility lies with the captains for ensuring that play is conducted within the spirit and traditions of the game, as described' applies to them also.

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(a) Anyone can make the toss - it does not have to be a nominated team member
(b) Prior to the toss being made, however, this person must nominate his team
(c) From then on, any decisions must be made by a nominated member of the team (Law 1. 3)
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Old 19-01-2005, 04:29 PM in reply to Richard Jenkins's post "RWS adds his official answer"
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umpiring problem

You are umpiring a match and the spinner comes on. Unusually, his action takes his feet through the return crease.
a) if his/her feet touch the return crease what do do?
b) if his/her feet don't touch the return crease what do you do?
C if the bowlers front foot is outside the return crease but the backfoot isn't

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D)the spinner bowls a very slow delivery which bounces twice before it reaches the popping crease without touching the bat of the striker. What do you signal?


can the bowler change to underarm if having injury problems?
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Old 18-07-2005, 02:42 PM in reply to Richard Jenkins's post "umpiring problem"
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What a find! I like things like this rather "Snazzy" thread.

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You are umpiring a match and the spinner comes on. Unusually, his action takes his feet through the return crease.
A) if his/her feet touch the return crease what do you do?
Call and signal "No-ball"!


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B) if his/her feet don't touch the return crease what do you do?
So long as his/her back foot is within the return crease (obviously not touching) the back foot is fine! Then you should check whether the front foot has some part touching or is raised behind the popping crease.

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C) if the bowlers front foot is outside the return crease but the backfoot isn't
So long as some part of the foot foot is raised or touching an area behind the popping crease, then this is a fair ball.

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D)the spinner bowls a very slow delivery which bounces twice before it reaches the popping crease without touching the bat of the striker. What do you signal?
No signal! This is a fair ball. Any more than two bounces before the ball reaches the popping crease (without touching anything) then the umpire should call and signal "No-ball"!

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Can the bowler change to underarm if having injury problems?
Yes, but only if there has been a special agreement, between both teams and umpires, before the match, that this could happen. If a bowler wishes to bowl underarm, in a match after such an agreement has been made, then the umpire must be informed of the change and then the batsman informed too. Failure to inform the umpire of a change (this also goes for switching arm and whether you bowl round or over the wicket) results in a no-ball when you next bowl!
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Old 18-07-2005, 02:58 PM in reply to Lemming's post starting "What a find! I like things like this..."
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2 bounces before the popping crease is a no-ball isnt it?

Underarm bowling is often covered by league bye laws. It is outlawed in our league (batsman favouing!!!!!! )
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Old 18-07-2005, 03:49 PM in reply to Statto's post starting "2 bounces before the popping crease is..."
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2 bounces before the popping crease is a no-ball isnt it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Laws of Cricket
LAW 24.6 BALL BOUNCING MORE THAN TWICE OR ROLLING ALONG THE GROUND

The umpire at the bowler's end shall call and signal No ball if a ball which he considers to have been delivered, without having previously touched the bat or person of the striker, either
(i) bounces more than twice,
or (ii) rolls along the ground
before it reaches the popping crease.
Does this answer your question Statto?
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Old 19-07-2005, 04:29 PM in reply to Lemming's post starting "Does this answer your question Statto?"
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Here is a difficult umpiring problem. I'd be amazed if someone could post a full solution straight off!

If you try to solve,please explain your answer so that others can follow your logic and maybe build on it.

Picture the scene, it is the final match of the Ashes and England need another 100 runs to win the series, they are 213-5. Glenn McGrath enters his delivery stride to bowl to Michael Vaughan, he's up to the wicket and bowls, his back foot is well inside the return crease (not touching) and his front foot is comfortably behind the popping crease. As he turns his arm over to bowl, the ball - still in his hand - clips the bails (which subsequently fall to the floor) at the bowler's end, Geraint Jones is out of his ground, the fielding team appeal...

The ball pitches 1/4 of the way down the pitch and then again 3/4 of the way down the pitch - yet having not touched Vaughan or his bat - before reaching Vaughan. Vaughan swivels on his back foot and pulls the ball hard behind square on the leg-side. Hayden is sunbathing at leg slip, the ball hits him full on the shin, he is protected well by shin-guards under his trousers though. The ball amazingly balloons up and hits the square-leg umpire full in the forehead and continues to travel upwards...

Michael Clarkes is in a daydream, he watched from his position at backward square leg as McGrath approached the crease to bowl at Vaughan, but was then distracted by two pigeons flying overhead, he watches them with amazement. The ball has hit the umpire and continued, without bouncing, to fall into Clarke's trouser pocket and come to rest. During the time the ball has been in the air the batsmen have attempted to run and crossed before the ball landed in Clarke's pocket. The fielding team appeal...

After seeing the ball land in Clarke's pocket, Vaughan makes good his ground at the bowler's end but Geraint Jones slips 5 yards short. Clarke, not sure of any rules, takes the ball out of his pocket and attempts a run-out at the end Jones is running to. Jones focuses on getting into his ground and scampers, with some determination, towards the keeper's end crease. The ball, having been thrown by Clarke comes in, and is about to hit the wickets before it hits Jones' bat - which he is sliding in and, for the record, is in good ground when the ball strikes - before carrying on to Damian Martyn at cover. The fielding team appeal...

The batsmen attempt another run as the ball is going to Martyn at cover. They complete their ground good. Vaughan is at the keeper's end, his bat just an inch or too in good ground and his feet out of his ground. Martyn slings the ball at Vaughan's stumps to attempt a run-out, Vaughan is slightly in the way and, fearful of being hit, sways slightly out of the way bringing his bat level with the crease line, his body is still out of the crease. The wicket is hit and the fielding team appeal...

Vaughan gets back into his crease. The ball, after hitting the wicket at Vaughan's end, continues down towards Jason Gillespie who has watched the action, astonished at what he is seeing, from fine-leg. He takes a few side-steps before diving to his left and grabbing the ball 3 yards inside the rope, his in not touching the boundary. Vaughan and Jones have attempted another run and are 3/4 of the way through it. Gillespie, having enough of this comotion, flings the ball over the boundary rope, Vaughan and Jones then make good their ground!

YOU BE THE UMPIRE!

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Last edited by Lemming : 19-07-2005 at 04:57 PM.
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Old 19-07-2005, 08:14 PM in reply to Lemming's post starting "Here is a difficult umpiring problem...."
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Picture the scene, it is the final match of the Ashes and England need another 100 runs to win the series, they are 213-5. Glenn McGrath enters his delivery stride to bowl to Michael Vaughan, he's up to the wicket and bowls, his back foot is well inside the return crease (not touching) and his front foot is comfortably behind the popping crease. As he turns his arm over to bowl, the ball - still in his hand - clips the bails (which subsequently fall to the floor) at the bowler's end, Geraint Jones is out of his ground, the fielding team appeal...
Jones is out, run out, at which point the ball becomes dead.
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