Who is the most influential person to have walked this earth??

[Paoli]

Zainub, I didn't say that any faith teaches hatred....I said there are minorities who carry this out THINKING it is right when in truth it isn't. I'm a Roman Catholic and I am disturbed when these things happen...

Take for example, Zainub, September 11 in the US and the Bali Terrorist Attacks...These where by people who wrongly believe that they are being told to do this, when in truth, they have been brainwashed. As in parts of Ireland or Northern Ireland, where Catholics and Prodistants believe God is telling them to attack each other when they have been brainwashed....

Excuse my earlier sentiment...The influence is probably by someone religious, I just got a bit out of line with the word influence.....I guess I only thought about it in a good way..

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

To be honest, surely this pope should do what the last pope did ad the last pope and so on ?? Has the bible been re-written ? We're talking religion here arent we not some two bit election manefesto ? I cant understand what the more liberal catholics are whining about ? If the new guy said "right chaps, being gay is OK, rubbers are Ok and so is abortion" it wouldnt be catholism would it, more likely the wishy-washy C&E stuff. If you dont like catholism find another version of christianity - theres enough to chose from.

BTW is just me or does anyone else get fidgety when the words "conservative" "right wing" and "german" are used in a sentance to descibe someone with global influence ?

[Beny]

The Da Vinci Code....I'm reading it at the moment....One of the best books I've ever read...Dan Brown's no idiot!!!

I read the first chapter and then couldent stand the disgracefull writing. I dont know about the info in the book but it reads like a 7th grade creative writing story...

Paoli, I challange you to go and find me one faith that teaches hatred.

Zanuib, I challenge you to find one faith where people agree on this issue. Christianity, Judaism and Islam all have a long hisotry of violence.

No Rachael with respect you have it wrong here, pope john Paul the 11, was an international Pope, he was loved whereever he went by Roman Catholics and none Roman Cathoplics alike

I didd'nt like him...

As for the likes of Hitler etc, they had absolutely no influence of the many many people that lived before 1920 on this Earth. You only have to look at the number of people nowadays that follow the teachings of Islam or Christianity (and one billion different people will follow them in 100 years) to see there really is only one answer.

No there are about 5...

Muhamad
*****
Moses
John the baptist
St Paul
Peter
St Thomas Aquinas
various popes
Martin Luther
e.c.t

Has the bible been re-written ?

Yes it went from Hebrew to Greek to Latin and then to English (and other languages).... Do you know that in the first translation Mary is described as 'young womman' rather than virgin??

Arinze,

Even I was rooting for this guy!

[Ernest]

I get twitchy when I here"Left Wing"-"Greens"- "EU" (same as German or French).

Yes there are other types of catholisism, of coarse the Pope is a Roman Cathlic, who you correcrly say, interpits the bilble as it will ALWAYS stand.
Countries build their constitutions on religious values of right and wrong (not to be confused with religious leaders).

Originally Posted by RBLC

If you dont like catholism find another version of christianity - theres enough to chose from.

I take it you mean "Roman Catholasism", Hmm Henry the 8th did just that, the Pope of the time would not let him dump his wife, and take another, so he started his own brand of Christianity, starter kit one sharp axe.

[Occasional Fan]

Ah, yes, King Henry! In connection with the recent marriage of a divorced likely future king, it was often mentioned that Henry VIII had established an acceptability of divorce for the monarchy. Not true of course. Executions and annulments for non-consummation were more his line. Even his first marriage was annulled rather than ending in divorce, I believe, though not for non-consummation. Glad we have moved on from the old axe over the last five hundred years.

[Paoli]

I find the international hype surrounding John Paul II as baffling...One minute the media said "He's gotta go, he's too old, what can he acheive that he hasn't tried to already"

As soon as he died "We farewell arguably the greatest visionary, a great humanitarian.." Personally, I didn't have anything towards John Paul II...If anything, he taught Catholics to tolerate other religions...Which is a good thoing..

[Milo]

When I say one answer Beny, I mean the one I gave first up (on page 1). Someone religious. Take your pick who you want that to be. It won't be individual people that come and go in time (ie Popes, Spirital leaders, Kings etc etc) it will be Mohammad, Jezus, etc. These are the influences on people in the past, present and future.

It seems to me there are two questions going on here.
1) The question in the thread
2) Who changed the world the most?

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by RBLC

has the bible been re-written?,

Originally Posted by Beny

Yes it went from Hebrew to Greek to Latin and then to English (and other languages).... Do you know that in the first translation Mary is described as 'young womman' rather than virgin?

I think Beny the Roman catholic bible has never been re-written in English, ipossible if you think, it has been "Coppied" to English so we can read it, but word for word for the Latin version.

Latin was chosen as the final language because it is a dead language, and useing latin means that the meaning of words could never be changed, by accident or otherwise.

Originally Posted by Beny

Do you know that in the first translation Mary is described as 'young womman' rather than virgin?

Strange because Mary concieved J-esus by the "Immaculate Conseption", visited by the "Holy Spirit", but of course she was not always young, not saying your wrong, just a new one on me.

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

Originally Posted by Beny

Yes it went from Hebrew to Greek to Latin and then to English (and other languages).... Do you know that in the first translation Mary is described as 'young womman' rather than virgin??

Alright clever-clogs, what about the last 500 years, or even the last 50 years. I'm not talking lost in translation, I'm talking re-written. Where has it said "And God saideth to his his son, its Ok to wear a rubber". Come on Beny you can do better than that.

PS No Klingon doesnt count either.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Paoli69

I find the international hype surrounding John Paul II as baffling

You have to remember Paoli that Roman Cathilasism is one of the largest religions, the Church Of England being founded by Henry the 8th is miniscule by comparason.
He traveled to 115 different countries, trying to bring different religions closer, and work together for peace, he was in no small way responsable involved in the bringing down of the Iron Curtain, like I said earlier, he was shot by a Bulgarian, for whatever reason.

The death of Pope John Paul 11, was nothing to the world wide mass hysteria, and moarning on the death of Princess Diana, I have never seen the like.
He was a great Pope, but all he could change had to be within the confines of the RC bible, and yes people had said he was getting to old, but being a priest or a Pope is being married to the church.