Proud to be British

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by greg

I'm proud to be British,but i am even prouder to be ENGLISH.Tony Blair and his cronies don't want us to have an identity and that stinks.If it wasn't for the fact that this government had alienated us in the eyes of so many others round the world then the events of yesterday would never have happened.

greg we are British, ok be prouder of England in the smaller world of sport, and I doubt yesterday had anything to do with Tony Blair, with the G8 meeting going on,this was the likely motive for the attack, but this is not the point of the thread to be blaming ourselves, Mr Blair, and I am no supporter of Labour, did not plant those bombs yesterday.

Originally Posted by greg

I bet if i was to put an England flag out of the window during the Ashes tests i would be told to bring it down as it offends somebody.

No one in Britain is resposible for yesterdays attacks, the bombers-bombed.

I think Mongoose meant he was proud the way Londoners had yet again been attacked, but things will still go on, their spirit will keep going, this is what I think Mongoose was trying to say.

greg of topic myself here, if you want to hang the cross of St George outside your home, then do so, I doubt it would offend anyone that mattered THAT MATTERED.

[Lemming]

Originally Posted by Richie Benauds Love Child

...These tree hugging soap dodging thugs need to have a long conversation with Mr truncheon, and if neccessary Mr Tear gas too...

That's the funniest thing I've seen today. It's strange, when I don't like something about the country, I might change my voting plans, write a letter to my local MP or maybe arrange a nice peaceful petition to be sent to Mr. Blair (I don't do these things myself, but these are good starting ideas). Other people get together and cause complete havoc for everyone else who accepts the general election as democracy and wants to simply get on with their lives. I really can't stand protestors, they just get in the way and they use the terrible excuse that the country is a democracy and they have a right to protest. Maybe everyone else should protest against protestors, that'll **** 'em up a bit! We need to build more prisons and chuck people who deliberately cause unrest in them. Is that so difficult Mr. Blair?

Originally Posted by Richie Benauds Love Child

Can I hang a union jack outside my window without a left wing council beardy weirdy knocking on my door ?? Highly unlikely...Greg hang your flag with pride and leave there regardless mate....

This sort of thing is a horrible "way" of our current society. We live in a multi-cultured society and so the people with the biggest mouths think it unreasonable to celebrate Christmas (to many, a social holiday) anywhere other than behind closed doors, away from potentially offended Muslims, Hindu, Sikhs etc. It's this sort of view that really causes barriers between cultures and faiths in society. Why can't a Christian celebrate Ramadan with his Muslim neighbour, and vice versa at Christmas. We don't have to get religious about things, but just accept others and enjoy their cultural differences, enjoy their food, drink, music and dance. Everybody needs to put in the effort to integrate with society, to celebrate in everyone's style every so often, and not be offended when seeing a flag. But most of all be proud to be who you are, for me it's British.

I digress a little. Sorry.

[Seamer]

While i cannot say i am proud to be British, i am proud to have the Union Jack on our flag. We have a great country down here and it is all thanks to Britain. While there is little we can do to help in this case, apart from moral support, Australia always has and always will stand by England when in need.
Now is the time to think about how to bring these attacks to an end, not why they happened. Australia has not gone unscathed. We lost over a hundred in Bali from a multi-bomb attack by islamic extremists. Did we wring our hands wondering if we should have stayed out of Afganistan or East Timor? No. Did we back down in the fight against terrorism after that attack? No. Is Australia at risk of a similar attack like 9/11, London? Most definately. We will not be deterred. But to win, we NEED Britain.
My thought are with you all in Britain and i am as outraged at this attack as you are. But as every other enemy of Britain has learned and these monsters will learn, this attack was a very, very big mistake on their part. If history is any gauge, an aroused Britain is a determined, relentless and deadly enemy to have.

[Cliff-UK]

Originally Posted by Seamer

While i cannot say i am proud to be British, i am proud to have the Union Jack on our flag. We have a great country down here and it is all thanks to Britain..

cheers, Seamer. We know who our friends are, And aussies are our friends.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Seamer

While i cannot say i am proud to be British, i am proud to have the Union Jack on our flag. We have a great country down here and it is all thanks to Britain. While there is little we can do to help in this case, apart from moral support, Australia always has and always will stand by England when in need.

Yes this is all true Seamer, Australia has always been there when Britain needed her, and that is not forgotten, and yes all nations are open to attack these days.

Well I am sure the people of London will appreciate your moral support, that's all the rest of Britain can do anyway.

Nice post Seamer.

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

Originally Posted by Lemming

This sort of thing is a horrible "way" of our current society. We live in a multi-cultured society and so the people with the biggest mouths think it unreasonable to celebrate Christmas (to many, a social holiday) anywhere other than behind closed doors, away from potentially offended Muslims, Hindu, Sikhs etc. It's this sort of view that really causes barriers between cultures and faiths in society. Why can't a Christian celebrate Ramadan with his Muslim neighbour, and vice versa at Christmas. We don't have to get religious about things, but just accept others and enjoy their cultural differences, enjoy their food, drink, music and dance. Everybody needs to put in the effort to integrate with society, to celebrate in everyone's style every so often, and not be offended when seeing a flag. But most of all be proud to be who you are, for me it's British.

But more often than not, its your left wing christian/atheist/socialist worker typers rather than your hindu, muslim etc etc who complain. Most I know will just rather live and let live. Iknow the union in the past has conatations with the BNP etc, but its hardly the rest of us fault !

[Mongoose]

Originally Posted by Ernest

I think Mongoose meant he was proud the way Londoners had yet again been attacked, but things will still go on, their spirit will keep going, this is what I think Mongoose was trying to say.

Exactly the point I was making Ern. I titled this 'Proud to be British' because:
1) British people stand up to these kind of things very well. The old guy on the news epitomised it for me, when he referred to the war, saying 'We've been here before, haven't we. Nil desperadum. We'll come through'.
2) British society is a peaceful and tolerant one. Of course there are exceptions, but overall I am extremely proud of our society. And when I say 'Proud to be British' I mean everyone who is British - all colours, all religions. I teach in a school that has rich kids, poor kids. White kids, black kids, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans. They are all included in Britain. That's why I'm proud to be British.

[Pete]

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...188565,00.html

Looks like Birmingham might be the next that's under attack.

[Mongoose]

I think we'll be OK here in Birmingham. I don't think terrorists tend to strike twice in quick succession. They will know that security will be mega-tight in the wake of London.

[Ernest]

Yes that's true Mongoose, they don't even have to bomb, they have the poilce on the run with threats, one telephone call. and a city is ground to a halt.