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Old 15-06-2007, 06:06 AM
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Hamish Marshall turns his back on the Black Caps

http://content-rsa.cricinfo.com/newz...ry/298045.html

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Marshall will be ineligible to represent New Zealand but the 28-year-old said he had made the decision for financial reasons. Marshall said his decision was based on securing his financial future.
I reckon a New Zealand contract is not worth that much then...
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Old 15-06-2007, 06:08 AM in reply to Wanderer's post "Hamish Marshall turns his back on the..."
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The New Zealand contracts are tiered from Number 1 down to the last man picked. Each one gets a different amount (apparently). Marshall, as a professional fielder, must have been at the bottom of the list.

Good riddance to him anyway. He doesn't deserve a place in the team.... I'm also hoping this means that Bracewell is going to resign.
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Old 15-06-2007, 06:16 AM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "The New Zealand contracts are tiered..."
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I reckon you're not a Marshall OR a Bracewell fan Andy

I understand the tiered system, because its much like SA too. But I am sure there are other "perks" to consider when playing for your country, like endorsements, lots of free stuff...
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Old 15-06-2007, 06:19 AM in reply to Wanderer's post starting "I reckon you're not a Marshall OR a..."
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I reckon you're not a Marshall OR a Bracewell fan Andy

I understand the tiered system, because its much like SA too. But I am sure there are other "perks" to consider when playing for your country, like endorsements, lots of free stuff...
I'm not a Bracewell fan because he kept picking the talentless (in terms of batting and bowling) Hamish and James Marshall instead of more deserving players.

Frankly, a player should not be playing international cricket because of the perks. They should be playing it because they want to play for their country. If this is how he reacts to getting a contract, he's no great loss. Stay in England, Hamish.
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Old 15-06-2007, 06:27 AM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "I'm not a Bracewell fan because he kept..."
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If this is how he reacts to getting a contract, he's no great loss. Stay in England, Hamish.
And that's how I feel about SA cricketers who go to England as Kolpak players...But at least, Hamish DID get a contract to play for his country...unlike Jacques Rudolph..

So, you reckon "more deserving players" will be picked when Bracewell goes ? Like?
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Old 15-06-2007, 06:36 AM in reply to Wanderer's post starting "And that's how I feel about SA..."
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So, you reckon "more deserving players" will be picked when Bracewell goes ? Like?
Mathew Sinclair is the obvious example - and he's probably the only one who would be a better fielder than Marshall. Hopefully people like Ryder, Taylor, Vincent etc. will get more of a fair go!
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Old 15-06-2007, 06:49 AM in reply to Andy Mellon's post starting "Mathew Sinclair is the obvious example..."
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Sinclair did not get his contract renewed, right? And I believe because of that he has considered making a move to SA, England or Australia...http://content-rsa.cricinfo.com/newz...ry/296534.html

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"I've been scarred twice now by the selectors and I really don't see much of a future for me here,"
Sad huh? Marshall gets a contract, and decides to turn it down, Sinclair WANTS a contract, but can't get it...
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Old 15-06-2007, 11:01 AM in reply to Wanderer's post "Hamish Marshall turns his back on the..."
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At 31, he is too old and at the end of the day, he is not good enough for the baggy green.
If Pietersen couldn't cut it in S.A, then what hope does Sinclair have.
His best bet is England, but i don't think he is good enough to represent England either to be honest.

His best bet is to put his head down, score a heap of runs in the NZ domestic comp, and get back into the N.Z team. If Hayden, at 36, can fight his way back into the Aus WC team, then i am sure Sinclair, at 31, has a chance too
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Old 15-06-2007, 01:54 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "At 31, he is too old and at the end of..."
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I do not believe Marshall's departure will pose much of a problem to the NZ selectors. He has not made any contribution to the NZ team for quite some time now.
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Old 16-06-2007, 10:03 AM in reply to Django's post starting "I do not believe Marshall's departure..."
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I had the feeling Hamish Marshall was going to turn out to be NZ's version of Graham Hick (who, conveniently) also played for ND as an overseas player...). Lately Marshall's domestic record has been pretty impressive, especially in county cricket. But apart from a good start to his international career he's been average to mediocre.

Sinclair was headed overseas for the same reasons Marshall is - the pay is better! I doubt he was hoping to get into the Aus or SAf international sides (despite actually being Australian). I have always been interested to see how well a 'top' NZ player would do in Aus with proper pitches to bat on and proper bowlers to deal with.
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