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Old 04-12-2004, 11:10 PM
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Chapell Hadlee trophey

1st game starts tonight.

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After being thrashed in the two Tests, New Zealand have an opportunity to salvage something from the tour when the three-match Chappell-Hadlee one-day series gets underway at the Telstra Dome in Melbourne on Sunday. Stephen Fleming has been at the receiving end so far, but he will be buoyed by the quality of reinforcements which have arrived to bolster the squad, as also by his team's recent performances in the one-dayers.
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Old 05-12-2004, 01:45 AM in reply to Beny's post "Chapell Hadlee trophey"
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Hi Beny, I wasn't aware that Shane Warne officially retired from the one-day game. Australia has a lot of spin-allrounders but I wonder whether a specialist spinner is a better option? What are your thoughts on this? Good to see Lee back after a well-earned rest. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't bowl well and force his way into the Test side for Perth and Melbourne. He was not suited in Sydney last year and I wonder whether it's better to leave him out of the Sydney Test match. New Zealand have played great one-day cricket lately and a short 3 match series should suit them so I'm looking forward to this series. Keep us posted.
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Old 05-12-2004, 02:08 AM in reply to Mike's post starting "Hi Beny, I wasn't aware that Shane..."
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Australia has chosen to feild Brad Hogg who is good spinner although there mainly for his handy batting and with Darren Lehman, Andrew Symonds and Michal clarke who can all ball decent spin. Shane Watson is technicly an allrounder allthough is a far better batsmen than bowler. The team is batting deep with test class batsmen down to 8 and Brett lee who can cetinly hold the willow at 10. It basicly means we can go out slogging complie a huge score and then settle down for a bowl without too much of a worry.

Because the match is being held in my state we dont recive coverage of the second innings so I wont be able to keep you posted unfortunetly.
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:31 AM in reply to Beny's post starting "Australia has chosen to feild Brad Hogg..."
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Kiwis beat Australia for the 1st time in 3 years!

Sounds like it was a very close match, but the Kiwis won due to great performances from Astle at the top of the order and Hamish Marshall at the end. Kasprowicz went for a few in his last over, which is unusual. Still, its good to see the Aussies having to work for once.
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Is it only me, or has Beny gone strangely quiet?

What happened to those over by over updates through the day mate?

On a serious note, it was a cracking game of cricket; I watched the first half (Aus innings) and then the extended highlights a bit later on. The Kiwis owe their success mainly to Vettori and Cairns with the ball and Astle and Marshall with the bat. I don't know why Marshall does not play Tests, he did well when Pakistan toured NZL last year, and is a young batsman of great promise, and a world-class fielder too.

Well done to the Kiwis for not letting the Test series' results demoralise them, and come back strongly; they lost Fleming to Lee on the second ball of their innings, but coped well. The Australians were unlucky and somewhat unplayed, so bound to come back very very strongly in the next two ODIs!

PS: Beny, hope you don't take the above the wrong way, not intended to be a wind-up... with Pakistan due to play in Perth in a few days' time, I really cannot afford to make facetious comments about your team...!
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:59 PM in reply to Beny's post starting "Australia has chosen to feild Brad Hogg..."
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Because the match is being held in my state we dont recive coverage of the second innings so I wont be able to keep you posted unfortunetly.
What's the story here, Beny? Is it some idea about not broadcasting to local fans in order to encourage them actually to go to the ground? If so, seems a strange idea given the size of most of the states in Oz. Would only really make sense for games played in Canberra. Or is there some other agenda that I haven't spotted?
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:21 PM in reply to Occasional Fan's post starting "What's the story here, Beny? Is it some..."
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Thank's for that guys...

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What's the story here, Beny? Is it some idea about not broadcasting to local fans in order to encourage them actually to go to the ground? If so, seems a strange idea given the size of most of the states in Oz.
It's only for people in the actual city. Only melbourne viewers missed out rather than all victorian viewers.

I was (un-fortunete) enough to see our middle order colapse for 18 runs in 4 overs. Anything can happen in the one-day game and in this one it seems to have.

Brett lee bowled very well and was probebly the pick of the bowlers from what I understand. Early in the match it looked as though Aus were set for a huge total with gilly taking apart the Kiwi bowling. He started suffering back problems and was eventualy bowled by Cairns (how they missed him). Hayden was the first to go caught by the best outfield catch I have ever seen- Sinclair dived to one side and caught it with one hand. Ponting looked good but was dissmised by a dubious LBW decision (not that I'm complaining). It all went down hill from there. Unfortunetly that's all I have seen from a combination of highlights and own viewing.

Don't worry Marenello, were going to be a lot tougher than a state second IX.
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:28 PM in reply to Beny's post starting "Thank's for that guys...:( It's only..."
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Don't worry Marenello, were going to be a lot tougher than a state second IX
I was waiting for that... hence my softly softly approach earlier today! Oh well...if only they had over-limits and coloured clothing in Tests, I think our boys might have a chance.. As it is, I fear I will have to wait for the VB series/ODIs before I can really start cheering some wins this summer.

I agree thought, Sinclair's catch was absolutely brilliant, probably one of two best catches I have ever seen live (as opposed to in a collection of "memorable catches" type shows). He was fielding as the leg-side sweeper, dived full length, flew through the air, and caught the ball single-handedly with an out-stretched left hand (is he left-handed).

The other very similar one I saw was way back in the early 90s (1993?), Wasim Akram fielding at mid-wicket as the Captain and diving full-length and a bit more besides to take a one-handed catch 1 mm above ground... to say Richie Richardson's expression was a trifle bemused, like Hayden's today, would be an understatement!
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:31 PM in reply to Beny's post starting "Thank's for that guys...:( It's only..."
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It's only for people in the actual city. Only melbourne viewers missed out rather than all victorian viewers.
That's too bad. And presumably makes hardly any difference in the case of the MCG, where they're either packed to the rafters (Boxing Day) or have a few spare seats available (any other day) out of their 100,000.
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Old 05-12-2004, 08:34 PM in reply to Occasional Fan's post starting "That's too bad. And presumably makes..."
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If it's a sell out-not sure what the criteria is for that probebly an 80-90% showup- than it's shown in-full. Also they ussualy show the last bit of a test match if it is expected to end quickly.
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