Twenty-20 England Vs Australia

[Victor Frankenstein]

well that was unexpected nice to see goughy do something and lewis to have a good debut, concerned that none of the 'proper' england bowlers did anything of note though, but no more concerned than i would be in any other practice match. England were definatly trying far harder than australia were, i think after australia's 20-20 game with new zealand where it was all jokes and fun they were expecting the same whereas vaughan had obviously instructed our team to take first blood and to savage them.

This result has absolutely no relevance to either the odi series or the ashes, but a win does mean far more to our players than it would have been if australia had won, and if nothing else maybe some of these ex-aussie players will finally shut the f*** up saying our players can't bat or bowl or do anything, it's just rude.

[Ernest]

Originally Posted by Zainub Razvi

I think this result is going to be good for two things : 1)England confidence 2) Ern's Ashes prediction

Just a little bit more than a bit of fun-methinks Zainub.
i think this is 3 Wngland wins against England on the trot.
I think England beat Australia in the last Test in Australia, we beat them in the semis of the 50 over ICCCC Trophy lasy year, and now the 20/20 format, becoming a bit of a habit in all formats - maybe

Originally Posted by Beny 52166

Dont you love that word 'Humane' or 'inhuman'. Personaly I think Animals are far less cruel than Humans. You dont see them experimenting on other animals or eating them even when they are'nt hungry...

Well I think their is far to much cruely to animals, speaking as a vegitarian of many years, I have seen pigs in pens were they could not even have the space to turn round.
Hens in tiny cages called batteries, fed protein to promote daily laying.
Cattle with penicillin tags in their ears, just to make them grow faster, and fatten them up.

I eat dairy produce, but pay a lot more more for eggs that roam free,,perch free at night, and are fed corn-rather than left overs from other dead animals.

Experimentation for producing medication, I am not sure about, but testing for cosmetics , to me is a strict no-no.

Back to the cricket, 20/20 proves nothing, all England could hope to get out of last nights match, was confiidence, and proving my theory that naked all 22 player are the same, just flesh and blood, of which Lee was tested by Flintoff last night.

[Trescothick]

Originally Posted by Victor Frankenstein

and if nothing else maybe some of these ex-aussie players will finally shut the f*** up saying our players can't bat or bowl or do anything, it's just rude.

Thats another good point... There was all this talk of Tresco being Gillespies bunny etc etc and hes no worry to Australia but i think he proved he can take on any bowling, because a score of 40+ in 20-20 is impressive to say the least and only getting out when smashing for a six prves nothing. Pietersen again suggested he deserves a place in test match, colingwood shows hes one of the best ODI player and a potential test allrounder, Strauss and Jones both performed nicely with the bat so i can't see the Aussies now laughing at these English players anymore.

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

Hold on a minute chaps. Does this photo suggest foul play ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...es/4087650.stm (see pic number 13)

Now it appears to me that Mcgraths middle stump is out the ground (loveley) but the ball hadnt reached it yet ? Was some small explosive device the real wicket taker ?????

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Richie Benauds Love Child

Now it appears to me that Mcgraths middle stump is out the ground (loveley) but the ball hadnt reached it yet ? Was some small explosive device the real wicket taker ?????

No skulduggery Richie. The action as I saw it was that the ball hit the middle stump bounced back to hit McGrath on the boot and then bounced back the other way to bowl him again. Or at least it would have done if the middle stump had still been in the ground.

So that was McGrath bowled (twice) Harmison 5. Surely England should get extra credit for that?

[Lemming]

Originally Posted by Ernest

Just a little bit more than a bit of fun-methinks Zainub.
i think this is 3 Wngland wins against England on the trot.
I think England beat Australia in the last Test in Australia, we beat them in the semis of the 50 over ICCCC Trophy lasy year, and now the 20/20 format, becoming a bit of a habit in all formats - maybe

Unfortunately Ern I think you have missed the world cup game where Australia beat us, so we have won 3 of the last 4 games. We have, though, actually beaten the Aussies in each of the last games we played against them in each format. Hopefully that will demoralise the Aussies camp so much that an England Ashes victory will be a formality.

[Seamer]

The question is what psychological effest this will have on Australia? Will this make them fearful and demorilised, no effect as all as it was only a muck-around game, or will it awaken the sleeping giant. The body language shown by McGrath when he was bowled by Harmison did not auger well for England. He looked as if he had filed the image of Harmison running down the wicket in celebration in his memory bank and will recall that memory every time he is at the top of his mark ready to bowl. While it was good for the series for England to get off to such a good start, the manner in which they won (a thumping), the way the crowd carried on (eg Clarkes misfield) will ultimately stir the Aussies up and make them determined and ruthless. I think England made a mistake by beating a rusty Australia team in the manner it did and may well come back to haunt them

[Oliver]

Originally Posted by Seamer

The question is what psychological effest this will have on Australia? ...I think England made a mistake by beating a rusty Australia team in the manner it did and may well come back to haunt them

Very nice use of the "embarrassment" smiley there Seamer.

Though on the other hand, you may well be right.

[flanflinger]

Originally Posted by Seamer

I think England made a mistake by beating a rusty Australia team in the manner it did and may well come back to haunt them

Or alternatively England could take the view that this Australian team in not un-beatable and that their batting can collapse like any other team, and that the Bowling can be taken on and beaten.

Originally Posted by Ernest

all England could hope to get out of last nights match, was confiidence, and proving my theory that naked all 22 player are the same, .

I have made the comment in another post, that there was something about the way England played the game that for me is something they can take away with them.

http://www.world-a-team.com/showthre...2225#post52225

PS Crowds "carrying on" with regards to fielding is something Phil Tufnel can tell you a lot about. The Aussies crowds were not exactly polite to him....

[Richie Benauds Love Child]

If Mcgrath wants to make Harmison his bunny thats fine by me !

Seriously though do you think it might have the sort of effect where McGrath will try too hard ? Didnt see Clarkes misfield, or the crowd reaction but do think it would have been different if tresco had mis-fielded in front of bay 13 ??