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South Africa v Australia (3rd ODI)

South Africa won the toss and chose to field in the hope of some early swing on a pretty good Port Elizabeth Pitch.

South Africa: G C Smith, H H Dippenaar, H H Gibbs, A B de Villiers, J M Kemp, M V Boucher, S M Pollock, R J Peterson, A J Hall, R Telemachus, M Ntini, A G Prince (sub)
Australia: A C Gilchrist, S M Katich, R T Ponting, D R Martyn, M J Clarke, M E K Hussey, S R Watson, G B Hogg, B Lee, N W Bracken, S R Clark, M L Lewis (sub)

BBC Scorecard here
Cricinfo Scorecard here

After an aggresive start from Gilchrist with some variation of hit and misses Australia have crawled their way 142/2 after 35.5 overs.
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Old 05-03-2006, 02:55 PM in reply to Vrock's post "South Africa v Australia (3rd ODI)"
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the sth africans say we are the ignorant bad sports but the SA players and public should take a look at themselves,because they are just as worst,plus we have done it all what has SA cricket done to back themselves up..no world cup,bad test form overseas and that is what makes a great side,dont get me wrong yous have a great team i would rate SA them more than england,but winning is everything and they have a long way to go before they are up there with the aussies.............and as i have seen in SA media please dont rate ntini up there with pollock and of coarse donald they are greats even in australia we dont see ntini as a great and he will never be a pollock or donald,just because he has one good game,think seriously before saying words like that..but it should be a great tour and i thank SA for some decent compition in world cricket
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the sth africans say we are the ignorant bad sports but the SA players and public should take a look at themselves,because they are just as worst,plus we have done it all what has SA cricket done to back themselves up
In answer to your question...
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South Africa won the first two games of the series and the pro20 game.
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we dont see ntini as a great and he will never be a pollock or donald,just because he has one good game,think seriously before saying words like that
Certainly speaking for Pollock in this, you should never see Ntini as a "Pollock" because Ntini is not the same type of bowler than Pollock. Pollock relies on line and length, frustrating the batsmen just outside the off stump into slashing at one. Ntini is a strike bowler much in the same way that Lee is for Australia. They bowl as quickly as they can and mainly go for bowled/LBW.
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you say ntini is a strike bowler and goes for bowled or lbw..well look at his stats ntini rarely has got lbw because he bowls from very wide of the crease and the angle of his line makes it impossible for him to get a lbw.(look it up)so please dont rate him like pollick,he to is a strike bowler he may not bowl in the hi 140km/h all the time like he used to,but hey we will see when ntini is that age and has played as much cricket as pollick has .
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you say ntini is a strike bowler and goes for bowled or lbw..
I don't!

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They bowl as quickly as they can and mainly go for bowled/LBW.
Typical strike bowlers do bowl as quickly as they can (Ntini) and do mainly go for bowled/LBW. Ntini uses the bowled/LBW option when the pitch is not doing much for the quick bowlers and also he doesn't get as many decisions for LBW because, for the reason as you have stated, he bowls wide of the crease.

Pollock has bowled line and length now for some time, I can never really see Ntini changing to a line and length bowler unless

a) He has a career threatening injury and has to bowl slower.
b) He becomes daft, he is South Africa's best strike bowler at the moment and when he fires, he gets wickets.
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S.A 85/3, 22 overs Devilires.. i can never get his spelling right lol out to an lbw.. just when the proteas was rocking along... these new aussie bowlers dont look that good to me... i think S.A can win this match comments?? score of 260 should be good enough in my opinion... then the S.A Team are in business
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S.A 85/3, 22 overs Devilires.. i can never get his spelling right lol out to an lbw.. just when the proteas was rocking along... these new aussie bowlers dont look that good to me... i think S.A can win this match comments?? score of 260 should be good enough in my opinion... then the S.A Team are in business
SA 130/4 now I'd say 260 mite be about 20 runs short for a good total ! I'd say 275-280 should win this game !

I hope kemp and polly bat well and make a game of it !
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Boeta Dippenaar is going well but his strike rate is far too slow for OD cricket. 67! He moves onto 94 but he really needs to accelerate and get the score up.

I think Dippenaar needed this innings to keep his place in the side as his scores recently have been not all that good.

Most notably from the Australian bowlers has to be Brett Lee who has so far again gone wicketless with 8 overs bowled for 35 runs. Although his economy is okay his main job is to strike and he seems to be off the boil in this sense.

SA currently 206-6.
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Dippenaar's role is vital, similar to Simon Katich or Salman Butt, to anchor the innings whilst the big guns go blaring. Besides, 0.7, his finishing strike rate, is a decent one for ODI cricket IMO. Not everybody can score at 80/90/100. He scored 101 in a South African total of 246/9. Definitely gettable but if Pollock and Ntini bowl well you never know.

Australia currently 5/0 after 2.2 overs.
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