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Old 14-01-2007, 11:23 AM in reply to Seamer's post starting "But are all WI wickets that slow or..."
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The Sabina Park pitch was relaid ahead of the last England tour and caught the home side by surprise: what little preparation the WI batsmen had done was on the typically slow and low pitches of WI domestic cricket.... and they had simply not even considered the possibility (and prepared for) Harmison getting steep bounce off a good length.

I'm pretty sure other WI pitches have been relaid since that tour (couldn't say which ones). My understanding is that the concerns were at one point raised that the pitches would not have time to settle in before the WC.. but as I understand it the ICC inspectors are all pretty happy with progress.

With any luck the pitches will be faster, bouncier and (in keeping with many new pitches, such as the first-year Hampshire pitch before it settled into mediocrity) "sporting".

On your other point... the explanation for the dearth of WI spinners strikes me as part cultural and as more related to short boundaries (and perhaps to the lack of bounce in the pitches): I reckon spinners suffer more than anyone from short boundaries that can be found without the batsman compromising his balance by the effort needed to play a forcing shot to a long bounday.

ps. I suspect the great WI attacks of the past were great despite the pitches rather than with the assistance of the pitches.

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Old 14-01-2007, 09:35 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "The Sabina Park pitch was relaid ahead..."
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Sri Lanka have to be one of the front runners for the WC, but the Aussies are so far ahead of the rest.
Its true that we have only 3 star batsmen, and 2 bowlers, but the thing is, that so called 'lesser' players do stand up sometimes as well. Particularly with the bat.
draexem, when you say that we have as much chance of winning the World Cup, as england, i will say that our 'lesser,' players do have the ability to stand up and be counted, and provide important performances. People like Dilshan, Maharoof, Chamara Silva if he plays, can provide support for the main batsmen.
We have upset the odds before, and whos to say that we cant do it again? Although playing on the type of pitches native to the Windies, will be tough, as it is common knowledge that we tend to fold in on ourselves on pitches unlike the ones at home...
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playing on the type of pitches native to the Windies, will be tough, as it is common knowledge that we tend to fold in on ourselves on pitches unlike the ones at home...
Last time Sri Lanka toured the WI (2003) they won all three ODIs... and of the five ODIs Sri Lanka have played in the WI... they've only lost one (June 1997).

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Old 14-01-2007, 11:22 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "Last time Sri Lanka toured the WI..."
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No one has the hitting power of Australia. In the batting line up there are powerful players who can hit the ball over the rope with ease.

Big hitters - Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting, Symonds, White.
Grafters - Clarke & Hussey.

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Old 15-01-2007, 03:24 AM in reply to Seamer's post starting "What, you watched Sri Lanka deal..."
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What, you watched Sri Lanka deal Australia a heavy defeat today did you?? To "prove" something, then surely you need, um, proof.
Yes you are right, proof is too strong a word. I’ve brought up Sri Lanka in the wrong thread, so I apologise for that. However, I’d like to rebut some of your points.....
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Sri Lanka flogging NZ in NZ means nothing.
Actually it does. Traditionally Sri Lanka struggle in New Zealand conditions and many people were predicting a whitewash. Instead, Sri Lanka impressed many, particulary Jayasuriya and Sangakara with the bat, and Vaas, Malinga and Murali with the ball. The only area they seem to be lacking in is there fielding.
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Australia whitewashed NZ in NZ 5-0 last year and that meant nothing too.
It only meant nothing because Australia is the undisputed best team in the world. Australia is the only side that can come to NZ and do that (with ODI’s).
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Just a few facts. Australia is ranked number one in ODI's with daylight second and Sri Lanka fifth. Australia have four of the top 10 batting players, Sri Lanka 2, Australia 3 top 10 bowlers, SL 2.
What's your point? Obviously Australia are the favourite to win the World Cup, I don't think anyone would deny that. I said Sri Lanka is "a" frontrunner, not "the" frontrunner. If I had to pick the semifinalists it would be Aussie, South Africa, Sri Lanka and either NZ, India or West Indies.
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I think any of the top 8 nations are a chance of winning due to the cutthroat nature of World cups. But how you have plucked SL as proven front-runner is beyond me.
Because of the great form they are currently in. I stick with my personal opinion that Sri Lanka is a frontrunner.
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I agree crabs the best four teams in the world are Australia, South Africa, Pakistan and I think that West Indies will do very well because they are at home and there form in the Champions Trophy. Sri Lanka on there day are as good as any of them.
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Old 15-01-2007, 05:50 AM in reply to Quagmire's post starting "I agree crabs the best four teams in..."
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I don't know, Sri Lanka have an explosive top order of Jiyasuria, Tharanga & Sangakara, good experience in the middle with Attapatu and Jaywardene, and then they have Malinga, Vaas and Murali who have all been matchwinners with the ball. It's a cliche phrase, but thats a lineup that can beat anyone 'on their day' and are not to be taken lightly. As poor a side as England are, the systematic demolition job the 'Lankans did on them last year was imperious, really made me take note.
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Old 15-01-2007, 02:57 PM in reply to MildRoastNesCafe's post starting "I don't know, Sri Lanka have an..."
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Coming back to the topic of this thread, which if not wrong was the 2nd ODI of the tri angular series down under, while I was watching a bit of the play in South Africa, the commentators there read an email from some one who spoke about a catch that was claimed by Symonds even though it fell short of him, in relation to a catch which Nazir took in SA's first innings, which replays showed was out. Can anyone who saw the match on telly tell me what happened?

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Old 15-01-2007, 04:06 PM in reply to Zainub's post starting "Coming back to the topic of this..."
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Symonds dived forward after delivering a ball and he thought he had caught it.

He did not make a big appeal,sort of asked the umpires to check,then White who had a good side on view told everyone it was short(it was) and the game went on.
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Old 15-01-2007, 04:17 PM in reply to KennyG's post starting "Symonds dived forward after delivering..."
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