Biggest difference I have seen so far between England and New Zealand's innings is that while New Zealand lost wickets they kept scoring - while England shut up shop. If England do go down, I wonder if it will be due to there mentality of stop scoring when wickets fall.

Oh dear! KP puts Styris down and that could well be the drop that costs the game. The premature end to KP's innings when he was looking like motoring on to something big may not have helped either. Could be buying his own beer tonight, could Kevin.

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Looks like its all over bar the boozing - well played NZ

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Nothing says "Obey Me" like a bloody head on a fence post!

That's right - the game is just drifting, not unlike the ICC final in 2004, England are also paying for relying on part time bowlers.

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New Zealand win by six wickets with nine overs to spare, and really England have not looked like winning since the middle of the innings. A big let down after having them at 19-3, but all credit to the Kiwis who played well and were always in control.

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England have paid the price for batting too slowly at the start and why do they keep picking Dalrymple, once again no runs or wickets. We may as well play a "proper" batsman or bowler rather than keep playing with 10 men!

Can anybody seriously see us beating any of the "big 8" teams?

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Mark.

I agree - it seemed inevitable when New Zealand had reached 100, that they would win.

Well done New Zealand for keeping your nerve, it could not have been easy on a slow pitch like that.

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Well yes - England looked well out of the CB in Australia - then won it.

If you put your head down - you will for sure get it chopped off, England neeed to remain possitive, and get rid off Dalrymple to make room for a specialist bowler.

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Exactly we need to be positive with the bat and set totals are bowlers can defend. Getting rid of "nothing" players like Dalrymple and picking geniune batters and bowlers is the way to go.

By the way who writes the player profiles on cricinfo?? Dalrymple a genuine allrounder ?!?

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Mark.

I agree with that - but also I think Vaughan could have been more possitive, he could have stopped the singles that kept New Zealand in the game when 4 wickets down.
He should have kept more players in the circle - and that would have made the batsmen have to play over the field, not easy on a slow pitch.

Well he is consistant .

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