Hide/show banner
Fantasy Cricket

Welcome to the World-A-Team Cricket Forum. We promote friendly, good-natured, quality cricket discussion.
Go Back   World A-Team Cricket Forum > ODI and Twenty/20 Cricket
Sitemap Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Contact Us Chat Room Shoutbox News Podcasts Fantasy Cricket

ODI and Twenty/20 Cricket Discuss current and forthcoming matches; general ODI and 20/20 issues, women's ODI cricket and ODI matches involving Associate and Affiliate members.

Reply Without Quote
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007, 03:11 PM in reply to vvvrulz's post starting "I saw nothing wrong with the 1996..."
Nostromo's Avatar
Nostromo Nostromo is offline
(ENG) Passed Eddie Paynter's 1540 Test runs
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wootton Bassett, England
My main national team: India
My other team/s: Any team that plays well with a big heart
Posts: 1,582
Quote:
Originally Posted by vvvrulz
I saw nothing wrong with the 1996 format. Two big pools, and then straight knock-outs from the quarter finals, the best team wins on endurance. I have no idea why this was scrapped and the whole "Super-6's or Super-8's" were introduced. Thats where the problem started for me, before the 1999 competition everything was running along very smoothly.
The answer lies in your post itself. Maybe the organisers thought that a 'sraight knock-out' format immediatly after the first round would be too abrupt - like a guillotine solution. For example, if South Africa & Bangladesh had met in a second round knockout match on the slow Guyana pitch, the Saffers would have been eliminated. Without taking anything away from BD's exellent performance on the day, that result would have been unrealistic from a larger perspective; depite the initial excitement, major teams would soon have realised the futility of such a format.

But in changing it, they went too far the other way and made it into a 'Super' type second round, where every qualifier plays everyone else except the one that they played in the first round. That and the stupid 'carry over points' system should be scrapped. An in-between format where the winners of Groups A & D form Pool 1 with the runners of Groups B & C AND the runners of A & D form the Pool 2 with winners from B & C, would be ideal. Points in the second round would be fresh ones with no carry over from the first round. Then the winners from Pool 1 would meet runners of Pool 2 in the semi-final and vice-versa.
Reply With Quote
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 11-04-2007, 06:08 PM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "The answer lies in your post itself...."
Occasional Fan Occasional Fan is offline
Moderator
(NZ-captain) Passed Martin Crowe's 5444 Test runs
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
My main national team: England
Posts: 5,511
Surely the answer as to why there are two pool rounds is simple: cash. Get the punters in - well, at least a few - as often as you can. I personally would rather see only one pool round, then straight into an eight team knock-out. But then I am a member of the potential paying public, not of the potential milkers of a cash cow (which, in this case, seems to have gone a bit dryer than anyone expected, and dryer than is really good for the worldwide image of the game).
__________________
Money won't buy you friends. But it gets you a better class of enemy.
Spike Milligan
Reply With Quote
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2007, 01:52 AM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "The answer lies in your post itself...."
vvvrulz's Avatar
vvvrulz vvvrulz is offline
Back from the dead.
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Zealand
My main national team: I support more than one national team
My other team/s: India, West Indies, Sri Lanka
Posts: 1,252
Send a message via MSN to vvvrulz Send a message via Yahoo to vvvrulz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostromo
For example, if South Africa & Bangladesh had met in a second round knockout match on the slow Guyana pitch, the Saffers would have been eliminated. Without taking anything away from BD's exellent performance on the day
I disagree, because for Bangladesh to advance to the next round (excluding freak events such as weather and forfiets) they would have to beat 2-3 frontline teams in the pool matches, so the chances of them even making it to the quarters are pretty unrealistic, and rightfully so.

In the 1996 competition, it was the top eight who battled it out in the quarters, and the rightful winner in Sri Lanka won the tournament. I like this format because it is very uncluttered, and in my opinion draws the fair winner. But it would become too similar to the champions trophy, another cash cow.
__________________
- VVVRulz..
Reply With Quote
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2007, 09:41 AM in reply to vvvrulz's post starting "I saw nothing wrong with the 1996..."
Milo Milo is offline
World XI (1980 onwards) -World XI (1980 onwards)
(ENG) Passed George Lohmann's 1205 Test runs
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
My other team/s: England
Posts: 1,235
Quote:
Originally Posted by vvvrulz
I saw nothing wrong with the 1996 format. Two big pools, and then straight knock-outs from the quarter finals, the best team wins on endurance. I have no idea why this was scrapped and the whole "Super-6's or Super-8's" were introduced. Thats where the problem started for me, before the 1999 competition everything was running along very smoothly.
This was changed because everyone felt sorry for South Africa who got knocked out due to one Lara innings having been the best team by quite some margin in the group stages.
Reply With Quote
Reply Without Quote


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:11 AM.

Page generated in 0.416 seconds (58.99% PHP - 41.01% MySQL) with 13 queries

Partner Sites: - pakistancricketzone.com | Fantasy Cricket | Cricket World Cup Images | Cricket 24/7 | Third Umpire | Indian Cricket League

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0