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Old 27-08-2007, 12:15 PM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "Collingwood was given 'not out' in a..."
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Collingwood went for one sweep too many. Bell looking good again...Shah in, looking a bit lost, nearly got stumped. I hope Bopara makes a decent contribution. I agree with pie chucker, Panesar must play because the change of pace, and because Panesar is simply the best spinner we have at the moment. A part timer like Pietersen would just get hammered all around the park, and not know how to deal with it. Panesar is a decent enough spinner to know how to change his approach.
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Shah out, after hitting Yuvraj Singh for 6, Singh plays a mindgame with Shah and then knocks out Shah's legstump.

And Bopara's out.

Both Shah and Bopara out after getting a bit too cocky. Bopara and Shah have left England a little bit in the lurch, Bell now has to do all the work, and protect the bowlers Broad, Tremlett, Anderson and Panesar.
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Old 27-08-2007, 12:45 PM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "Collingwood was given 'not out' in a..."
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Whats up with India's fielding? Had they been sharper, they would have had about 3 more wickets. As I type, they miss an easy run-out for tremlett. At least we know that England will outclass India in one aspect of the field.

About 260-270 is a good score, but England were a bit too sagressiv,e especially Collingwood and Shah. they should really bat sensible aroung overs 30-45. I think they should go after the bowling when they have 5 overs depending on the wickets in hand. If England have 5, then they should play aggressively later. If we have 8 or 7 then we should look to attack around over 40. Instead, we had Collingwood going forward in over 38 with 7 wickets in hand. We really got to work out how to accelarate in later overs.
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Wow, did you see the 6 hit by Tremlett? out the ground.
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Old 27-08-2007, 12:51 PM in reply to Henners's post starting "Wow, did you see the 6 hit by Tremlett?..."
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Intresting score England have fought back well. India only have six batsmen it will be interesting.
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Ern, I still think we should play Panesar (or another spinner) even against India. Its a chance of pace in the bowling which we need especaially now as we have no Flintoff[..]. And from Collys point of view it may speed the over rate up .
Well England have a decent(ish) score finishing their innings on 281-8, so I suppose we will soon see how effective Panesar will be, but the India players cut their teeth on SLA and other spin.

I would think winning the match would be more important to Colly than the over rate p_c,, I think I have to agree.

At least we have a competative match, had England got 320 they probably would have batted India out of the game.
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I think India gave away too many runs. They should have restricted England to 250. But then if the top players fire, this target can be chased.
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I think its juat about a par score. Yes Ern we''ll see how my boy Monty goes; if he can get through his 10 for less than 55 thats OK, anymore (unless he takes 5 or 6 wickets) and I'll have to concede he should have been left out. It will be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
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Good score for England. I think that we will find the Indians struggle with this total. India only have themselves to blame with their poor fielding. Now correct me if I am wrong but the Indian players have always been labeled as lazy and without a coach, I think that we are seeing the truth in that "label".

I do not agree with you Ern on Panesar. And South Beds Mikey even if he goes for 70 in his 10 overs, he would be doing better than Tremlett who went for 73 in nine. If India are so good against spin and struggle against bounce then why was Tremlett the most expensive bowler. Panesar cannot be expected to win every match but he needs to be included because he is the best spinner that England have and using the fact that India play spinners well as an excuse to leave him out is ridiculous. SA play fast bowling well, so maybe England should play 5 spinners against SA
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Not a very good start from Tremlett with his first over going for 10. We must be favourites now but with India's superb batting strength they are never out of it. As I type "the wall" strokes 2 majestic boundaries and is looking ominously focused.

Tremlett has to bowl with more discipline to his off side field; leg stump balls to Dravid simply asking for it.
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