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Old 06-09-2007, 11:15 AM in reply to Moss's post starting "I'm not usually bothered about the..."
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Before a ball was bowled in anger between India and England, the 7 game series was criticised.

Now, with the games being of good quality and providing excitement, that there are 7 of them seems to have slipped the consciousness.

Showing it is not how much you have but what you do with it!

Who said cricket can't tell you something about life?

It seems to be doing a world of good for England's ODI prospects.

Bell has come on and Wright looks a find.
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:51 AM in reply to Ninjaman's post starting "Before a ball was bowled in anger..."
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I must hold my hands up Ninj as I was a strong critic of this 7 game series. I think I would still have preffered an extra test but this odi series seems not to have been so formulaic as some. Perhaps I'm getting carried away as my lot have managed to win a game or two!!
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:41 PM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "Prior is probably OK as the ODI keeper,..."
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Prior is probably OK as the ODI keeper, but his batting is not good enough to open.
Or dropped completely, as I mentioned earlier in this thread "Prior really should have had that one" was a consitnet theme on CricInfo:- India vs England: 6th ODI

For me, a close game like this one you need a good keeper, one who can also bat, so for me Mustard has to be the choice, certainly in ODI's.
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:30 PM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "Or dropped completely, as I mentioned..."
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Mustard has to be the choice, certainly in ODI's.
Quite right. Prior's palpably not up to it. Too many starts without conversion, getting out to some truly hideous shots, not overly comfortable against the moving ball. That's before we even get to his keeping. Someone mentioned that Moore's is in danger of favouring Prior in the way that Fletcher did Jones. I hope not. Loyalty is one thing, but Prior is clearly not an opening batsman at international level, nor an international wicketkeeper. If he works on his batting I don;'t see why there can;t be a place for him in the middle order (just as batsman) sometime in the future, but England need to call time on this stage of his career pretty quickly.
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:54 PM in reply to first change's post starting "Quite right. Prior's palpably not up..."
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England need to call time on this stage of his career pretty quickly.
I agree, but it wont happen . I expect Prior to go on both winter tours and be first choice keeper. If he maintians his poor performances then i think his place will be under threat. Personally I'd take Mustard for the ODI's and 20/20 and one of Ambrose / Davies / Foster for tests.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:14 AM in reply to pie_chucker's post starting "I agree, but it wont happen :-/. I..."
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My choice would be Mustard for ODI's and Twenty20's and Davies for Tests.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:14 AM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "My choice would be Mustard for ODI's..."
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I missed the discussion in question... but the TMS crew were apparently unanimous in saying "for god's sake, bring back Foster".

I'd rather have Read... but agree that Foster should be next in line (especially in Test cricket).

Read should get the ODI job: he was doing that very well before... has gone from strength to strength this season with the bat... and is now a senior figure (and county captain) whose cool temperament and improvisation should help down the order.

I'd only have one concern about Mustard as the reserve 'keeper for the ODIs: that he'd perhaps do better touring with the academy side. That said... I'd probably take him anyway and leave Davies the academy spot!
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I'd rather have Read... but agree that Foster should be next in line (especially in Test cricket).
That would be true Rachael if Foster had any international experience, surely Read would be the way to go.

The last thing England need at the moment is yet another greenhorn in Sri Lanka, like what happened in Australia.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:19 AM in reply to Ernest's post starting "That would be true Rachael if Foster..."
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That would be true Rachael if Foster had any international experience
Pardon? Foster has seven Tests and eleven ODI's to his name!
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:37 PM in reply to adamberry's post starting "Pardon? :confused: Foster has seven..."
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Pardon? Foster has seven Tests and eleven ODI's to his name!
We are taking about keepers who can bat, and Read is far more experienced than Foster.

I had forgot he had played one day internationals, but adam a batting average of 13.66 is hardly memorable.

And seven Tests, England did so poor in the Ashes due to inexperienced players, England need to gel the players they have, before playing any more comparative newbies IMO.

Read has a wealth of experience, and he has always played under pressure under Fletcher/Vaughan - he needs an extended run.
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