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Old 18-09-2007, 12:04 PM in reply to greg's post starting "At least we are getting ourselves..."
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At least we are getting ourselves knocked out before we choke in the semi final AGAIN.

For a start though we know we have a dreadful rugby team,we may have won the last world cup but that was then and now we are a poor siode who may not even qualify for the inevitable quarter final thrashing.

When was the last time your fantastic South African side beat us in a test series?
Greg - oh I forgot...when England get knocked out of world tournaments...any form of cricket besides Test Cricket lacks authenticity.

As for your question - South Africa has played England in 3 test series since the turn of the century...
South Africa won one of them in South Africa
There was a drawn series in England.
And England won one of them in South Africa - this is probably the most embarrasing event to ever happen to South African cricket.

There is another test coming up in the not too distant future...better start pre-scripting excuses...they were posioned!!??


Well the English media didn't seem to realise that England had a terrible rugby team before Friday.

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Old 18-09-2007, 12:06 PM in reply to PaceHitta's post starting "Greg - oh I forgot...when England get..."
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Well the Englsih media didn't seem to know that you had a terrible rugby team before Friday.
The media and public are 2 totally different things,in case you hadn't noticed.

For the record,i have enjoyed this 20twenty competition far more than any world cup of recent times and England have been just as bad in this competition as they have been in previous ones.Just because we have been beaten i am getting the lacking authenticity line thrown at me.

Still whatever floats your boat.

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Old 18-09-2007, 12:25 PM in reply to greg's post starting "The media and public are 2 totally..."
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Australia 34/2 after 4 overs. Tanvir removing both openers. Australia however bat a long way down.

Does anyone know anything about Tanvir. I have been very impressed by him. I checked cricinfo but it says that he is a batting alrounder and that he has not taken a single wicket in 10 domestinc twenty20 matches. That info is surely misleading.

If Pakistan want any chance of winning, they need to remove Symonds soon(IMO the most dangerous player in this format of the game).
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Old 18-09-2007, 12:26 PM in reply to PaceHitta's post starting "Greg - oh I forgot...when England get..."
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Good start to the 2nd game of the day,

Australia 42-2 off 5 having been put in by Pakistan.Pakistan will be pleased to have seen the back of the in form Hayden.

Never heard of Tanvir but he does appear to know what he is doing.
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Old 18-09-2007, 12:29 PM in reply to greg's post starting "The media and public are 2 totally..."
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Just because we have been beaten i am getting the lacking authenticity line thrown at me.
I imagine it's more to do with the choking comment - it offends me and i'm not S'african. You could say they choked in their last match of the 1999 WC but you could just as easily say they got over-excited by the fact they thought they'd won it (not to mention the fact that Oz were generally considered even then as the best OD side). then to say they "choked" in SA was nothing more than feeding a myth but British and Oz "journalists" didn't miss the opportunity ... and in the WIndies they were beaten by a team which, rover the last decade or so, simply don't do losing in major tournaments (not to mention the fact that at the same time as calling them "chokers" etc people are also saying they are dogged by internal issues, like quotas, - yet they still reach the semis in major tournaments - doesn't make sense to me, not that it needs to make sense for people to believe it or use it to belittle).

in truth SA have done much better than every other cricketing nation in consistently performing well - till they face the (result-wise) undisputed WChampions.
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Old 18-09-2007, 12:55 PM in reply to butchering lee's post starting "I imagine it's more to do with the..."
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I imagine it's more to do with the choking comment - it offends me and i'm not S'african [...] to say they "choked" in SA was nothing more than feeding a myth but British and Oz "journalists" didn't miss the opportunity
I have a similar reaction to the allegations of choking... partly because I find the whole idea so laughable... especially when the allegation is in respect of a side that routinely over-achieved!
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When you look at the Aussie line up they have loads of power hitters in the top 4 to exploit the opening overs but when they are out they don't really have the explosive batsmen that other countries have for the death,it may not matter but personally i don't think of Hussey and Clarke as big boundary hitters,class acts yes but sloggers no.

At 101-4 after 13 it is difficult to gauge what they may end up with.

I may mentioned it previously but the Aussie kit is the worst in cricketing history.Ghastly.

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Old 18-09-2007, 01:01 PM in reply to Rachael's post starting "I have a similar reaction to the..."
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Most of what's written is rubbish. The Proteas have performed very well since their return to International cricket. England over the last few years have performed very well in Tests and not so well in the rest. Most England fans know that we're not up to much at the shorter game but the press still keep their expectations high.

PS: to suggest the most embarrasing thing to happen to South African cricket was to lose a Test series at home to England is plain ridiculous. I am sure that far worse things have happened. That England side was a good one and also won in Sri Lanka, Pakistan ......... in fact did well everywhere apart from Australia. Get over trying to belittle England's achievements and put that series into perspective.
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I agree Notts Exile. THe England team that beat SA was a good one and the test series was very entertaining. Nobody is belittling anything here. We are talking about Twenty20 here and Greg decides to get sarcastic in mentioning SA vs England test series. By the way NE. England got thrashed in Pakistan, so you should take that series off your list of wins.

Back to the game. Pakistan doing quite well here restricting Australia. 125/4 after 15 overs. Aus will need to scoore 180 at least. It is difficult to defend at the wanderers.
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Old 18-09-2007, 01:12 PM in reply to gibbs_fan's post starting "I agree Notts Exile. THe England team..."
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We are talking about Twenty20 here and Greg decides to get sarcastic in mentioning SA vs England test series. .
Only because PH was sarcastic saying we will belittle the competition because we had been beaten.

It works both ways you know.
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