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Old 20-02-2008, 04:54 PM in reply to sanketh84's post starting "latest news guys...symonds has released..."
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Dont know why no body brought m yousuf. He is a pretty class player in my view. I think the bids have been very different from the actual abilities of players because the bidders arent much educated about cricket.
I mean you can say what yo want, but people like srk, ambani would not know the abilities of many players, they would only go by, how famous a cricketer is.
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Old 20-02-2008, 06:16 PM in reply to wilyoldfox's post starting "Dont know why no body brought m yousuf...."
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Dont know why no body brought m yousuf. He is a pretty class player in my view. I think the bids have been very different from the actual abilities of players because the bidders arent much educated about cricket.
I mean you can say what yo want, but people like srk, ambani would not know the abilities of many players, they would only go by, how famous a cricketer is.

Dont think SRK and Ambani before going to bed decided whom they want. They would have definitely consulted cricket experts(atleast whom they felt know about the game) and depending upon availability would have picked players.

what they want is club's value to increase. PHL eagles was worth 120 mil 12 yars ago and now its worth 1 bil USD. Club Value is propoprtional to the number of people who follow a particular club.The following usually can increase by fixed fan base,exciting players,winning streaks and current form of the team.Hence players could have been chosen in terms of their potential brand value as well
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Old 20-02-2008, 07:55 PM in reply to wilyoldfox's post starting "Dont know why no body brought m yousuf...."
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Hi WilyoldFox
why no mohammed yousuf?
Here is the answer for ur question-All the 8 bidding franchises and bcci were served with show-cause notice from high court(delhi?)by ICL(yousuf was supposed to join them initially but changed his mind after signing the contract)
thats why bidders did not want to take a risk of bidding Yousuf(it has nothing to do with srk or ambani's cricket knowledge)
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Old 20-02-2008, 07:57 PM in reply to batoutofhell's post starting "Hi WilyoldFox why no mohammed..."
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Agreed..even some players like ambati rayudu who plays for my hometown HYD shud not have signed for ICL maybe ????
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Old 20-02-2008, 09:25 PM in reply to Tendlya's post starting "Agreed..even some players like ambati..."
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With the kind of money some marquee players have attracted to play a month's worth of slap bang cricket I wonder whether Shane Bond is starting to regret signing with the rebels and losing his New Zealand contract.
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Old 20-02-2008, 09:29 PM in reply to sittingduck's post starting "With the kind of money some marquee..."
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With the kind of money some marquee players have attracted to play a month's worth of slap bang cricket I wonder whether Shane Bond is starting to regret signing with the rebels and losing his New Zealand contract.
T20 is not just bang bang cricket. Basics of cricket remain the same as evident in T20 WC. Not every match was a high scoring game.If there is a quality bowler bowling , its as good as any form of the game.
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Old 21-02-2008, 12:32 AM in reply to Aurelius's post starting "What are you talking about? Clarke's..."
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What are you talking about? Clarke's done exceptionally well in the ODI game since making his debut- what, 3 or 4 years ago?
He would have struggled to get a bid much like Mike Hussey.
He didn't pull out of the auction in the last minute becuase of a sudden urge to improve his game back in Australia in October when their is not much cricket played anyway.
Clarke saw the writing on the wall at best he is a chip around player and as we saw in the auction that type of batsman is dime a dozen.
The IPL teams wanted power hitters thats why Dohni, Symonds, D.Hussey and Cameron White all got over $500 thousand USD. Clarke would most likely joined other chipper/accumulator types such as M.Hussey, Langer, Katich, etc ending up without a bid.
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Old 21-02-2008, 01:02 AM in reply to acker's post starting "He would have struggled to get a bid..."
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It strikes me that we're talking about two different things.

I thought you said that Clarke wouldn't last in the ODI side (as I recall, you said limited overs) because he isn't a power hitter like Symonds or White, which isn't something I agree with as he's got a very good record built up over five years.

But if you're just saying that he might not pick up a bid in the Twenty20 form in the IPL, you may be right.

About the auction itself, I agree with wilyoldfox when he (or she) says that players are picked largely based on their marketability, which is why Kamran Akmal could find a berth whereas the far superior Tatenda Taibu could not, and why several other very good players were overlooked in favour of more famous (but not necessarily better) ones.
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Old 21-02-2008, 02:46 AM in reply to Aurelius's post starting "It strikes me that we're talking about..."
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It strikes me that we're talking about two different things.

I thought you said that Clarke wouldn't last in the ODI side (as I recall, you said limited overs) because he isn't a power hitter like Symonds or White, which isn't something I agree with as he's got a very good record built up over five years.

But if you're just saying that he might not pick up a bid in the Twenty20 form in the IPL, you may be right.

About the auction itself, I agree with wilyoldfox when he (or she) says that players are picked largely based on their marketability, which is why Kamran Akmal could find a berth whereas the far superior Tatenda Taibu could not, and why several other very good players were overlooked in favour of more famous (but not necessarily better) ones.
Clarke is not exactly sitting rock solid in the 50 over form of the game either.
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Old 21-02-2008, 04:10 AM in reply to acker's post starting "Clarke is not exactly sitting rock..."
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Really? He's the highest runscorer amongst Australians in the current CB Series, and the fourth highest overall. So he's got the current form behind him. He averages 45 with the bat over 120+ matches, with a strike rate of 81, not exactly a snail's pace. So he's got the sustained performances behind him, as well.

Just what are you basing this on?
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