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| The number of decent Pakistani crickters who are given a debut at an obscenely young age, and discarded after a few games never to be heard of again is quite high. There is Hasan Raza, Wasim, Basit Ali, and many others from the recent past, all who came, impressed with their initial results, and were dumped soon thereafter!
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| Basit Ali made his mark and would have stayed in the team except from all reports he was a trouble maker. I think he got involved with a lot of politics and was kept out of things for reasons other than cricket. Would love to know the reasons Raza is over-looked though, I see he's still making runs at domestic level along with Taufeeq Umar. do you think they're trying to rub the selector's noses in it? |
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| He is making runs domestically, but then so are many others, Hasan is not the most prolific or even the most consistent batsmen in our domestic system; that's ok, since success in Pakistan's domestic system has historically had no correlation with being a good cricketer! People who do excellently domestically, eg Mansoor Akhtar, Shafeee Ahmed Papa, Wajahutllah Wasti, and recently Saeed bin Nasir, Fazle Akbar, Naved-ul-Hasan, and break all sorts of records at home, seldom end up being Test-level players. Its the others, who do reasonably well domestically but who have the potential to do much much more, eg Saeed Anwar, Amir Sohail, Inzamam, Youhana, et al who shine at the international level. I would place Hasan Raza in this latter category too.
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| The thing about Raza is that he did actually produce a couple of high quality innings against the Aussies in test matches. When you think how few of our recent batsmen can boast that, it's strange that he has never been considered again, despite doing so well. You mention Wasti there, he's another who i don't think was given a fair crack of the whip. Imran really rated him after a few very good knocks as an opener during the 99 World Cup, yet he was dropped soon after, probably because he failed in the final. Well if failing against the Aussie attack in one match spells the end of a career we'll need 6 new batsmen by Feb!! |
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| Yes if success against Australia is the criteria, then Youhana should be sent back to club cricket! It seems that we judge the youngsters on totally different criteria from the experienced players. It is alright for Youhana to fail in the important Tests, and he will remain our "premier batsman"; however, a youngster like Hasan Raza or Asim Kamal or Yasir Hameed has to perform from the first Test, otherwise he will be out! Terrible selection policy and a terrible way to nurture and develop new players.
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| I just checked Raza's recent test history and it reads: V Aus 54 n.o. & 68 v Zimbabwe 46, & 11 4 Those are his last 5 innings before being dropped. he averaged 122 in the one test he played against Australia who had Gillespie, McGrath and Warne in the team yet he was discarded two matches later. Unbelievable! |
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| Yes, and that was the Test when everyone else in the Pakistani batting line-up was falling like nine-pins, and Raza held everything together at the age of 19 or whatever! He was the highest scorer in each innings - remarkable! His cricinfo profile reads: Quote:
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| Press comments on Hasan Raza (from 2001/02) (Provided by Shaka) Steve Waugh said after the 2001 Test series: "Hasan is the most talented player amongst all youngsters in Pakistan. He is the one who deserves our respect" Quote:
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| I wish I knew the answer to that question, he really has been treated very unfairly by the selectors. Hopefully he'll be back some time soon. |
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