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| Here we go again I enjoyed this, I really did. Shoaib should definately consider a career in the show biz after he retires, and may be even a few episodes of I'm a celebrity get me out of here he'll be all over the place then, I'm 100% certain Sometimes I wonder what would we would talk about had Shoaib not been around - he's crazy alright - but entertaining in that respect. I look forward to the response Punter will give to this, hopefully it will be mature... |
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| Do you think it is a cheap ploy by ponting to get Akhtar to bowl himself dry early? |
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| I agree with Shoaibs point on the sending a batsman back to the dressing room. A little finger pointing is pretty harmless, actually very harmless really, as Akhtar said, it doesn't involve foul mouthing or hurt feelings as such, its just two good cricketers having a psychological battle.
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| Ohhh booo hooo. Here we go again with Aktar jumping to the defensive every time somebody questions his dedication. Well here are the "Facts". 1. Shoaib runs half a mile every bowl for a run up then has to be taken off after 5 overs because he's buggered. Thus reliving any preasure that he may have put on. 2. He needs a doctor and an hour off the feild every time he feels a 'niggle'... Of course he's going to feel a little niggle. He's a fast bowler, every body gets them and can still continue to bowl. Brett Lee and Glenn McGrath had, up until the past year, been bowling with 'little niggles' in their ankels and still steaming in. I get 'little niggles' every time I bowl! The fact is that he's either padantic or he simply recovers very quickly. If he's not willing to bowl out an innings with any hint of effort (i.e never got above 140 km/h) and did'nt even look like he was intereseted in being out there then he needs to reconsider his commitment. If he has an injury that bad then he should'nt be bowling at all. His commitment or lack off comitment reflects badly on the whole team. |
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| It's fair to say Beny that we have our selves spoiled Shoaib. Earlier in his career when he came on the scene the PCB and the Pakistani press (most of them are now totally anti Shoaib) raised him to cloud nine within a matter of months. He was treated as a prodigy, hyped up like was a Saint or something, and tipped to greatness. And this remember was all when two of the greatest fast bowlers of all time, Wasim and Waqar, were still in the team; no wonder both of 'em still have some issues (apparently at least) with Shoaib. Obviously they understood this guy had potential and that he could bowl fast, but he was unproven and far, far from a finished article. Wasim and Waqar were never, at any time in their career when the played with Shoaib, comfortable with the fact that he him self kept on talking about him self quite a bit and that the PCB were going over board in hyping him up as well. When Shoaib was initially reported for his action, our board spends million of dollars on hiring special coach exclusively for him). We spent another truck load of money to send him to Australia for exclusive remedial work. I doubt people in our team that time weren't feeling there was a fair bit of favoritism going out there. I’d go as far as saying that a few players at that time were suffering because of this princely status Shoaib was enjoying an inferiority complex. And that certainly affected their performances, and consequentially the results we got. No wonder Shoaib now, since both Wasim and Waqar have retired is so much of a spoiled brat, he seems to get away with so many blunders and at times glaring lack of effort on his part...I try and never question people's commitment because these guys are representing their countries...and to say they aren't trying their best is always a bit of serious allegation (in a moral sense)...but Shoaib from his body language and his conduct makes it very difficult to do otherwise. There has been a definite improvement in his over all attitude an a marked increase in commitment towards team ethic noted under Woolmer, but performances like the one in the final test in Sydney (16 wicket less overs in which he went for 4 and half an over, didn't bowl at all in 2nd innings, bagged a pair, including a horrendous shot in the 2nd innings when his team where battling hard to give them any chance of victory) certainly leave a lot left to be desired. Most certainly he is not setting the sort of example for younger bowlers in our team that is expected of him now that he is our leading and most experienced strike bowler, not consistently at least. The problem here is that even despite that, we can't drop him, because the alternatives are too either too weak/inexperienced, or down right just not good enough. And we are usually left with a big hole in the side whenever he is not playing. I'm certain that the only way he will improve is when others step up the gas, and their is more pressure on Shoaib with respect to his position in the team, he wouldn't take things for granted then as he does now. And act more responsibly. |
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| I agree, a few years ago, he was a real spoilt brat. However I think slowly he is starting to come right, and i do beleive he is an intelligent bowler, and not all about express pace these days. He outhought the likes of Hayden and Lehmann by targeting their weakness. And beny, yeah I have to agree with his constant niggles, I do think some of them are "Ganguly" injuries.
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| If he wasn't fit to play 5 days he shouldn't really have been selected for this match but we were down to the bare bones with so many players dropping out through injury there probably wasn't much choice. |
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| Bob Woolmer on Shoaib's series "He's complaining of a hamstring injury and he's having a scan tomorrow. Hopefully we'll see how fit he is after that. Certainly in this Test match he's been a shadow of himself. He bowled pretty well in the first two Tests. If you want to run that far in this country you have to be triathlete fit. Either he shortens his run-up or he gets triathlete fit. He was tired and in a way everyone was disappointed with his commitment. From a team point of view we understand he's given his all in the first two Test matches."
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