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Old 25-02-2005, 11:03 AM in reply to Maranello's post "Woolmer cleared by PCB"
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I read Marenello's comments, smiled and shook my head, and said to myself "leave it alone" But sorry, i can't help myself.
OF COURSE the PCB exonerated Woolmer. He has quite cleverly turned the issue away from his poor coaching onto the umpires. The PCB is quite happy to go along with that because they employed him, and as a result, Woolmers failures are the PCB's failures. The 29-5 decisions are pure fantasy. No independant person has seen this supposed video because it does'nt exist except in Woolmers imagination.
The ICC has once again demonstrated their absolute weakness by referring this issue to the PCB in the first place. Woolmer quite clearly brought the game into disrepute by questioning the umpire' decision, the ICC should have punished him, were too gutless to do so, which has allowed yet another dangerous precedent to be set. If any player said such a thing they would have been punished, and coaches should be too. We will now see every failed coach try this same stunt, yes stunt, as Woolmer did in an effort so save their jobs. Cricket will continue to be brought into disrepute because of this gutless lack of action by the ICC
If Woolmer and the PCB were genuinly concerned about this umpires situation, they would have brought it up at the next ICC meeting instead of publicly bringing the media into it and dragging cricket through the mud in the process.
The sanctity and purity of the game is under threat because of gutless half-measures or no measures at all by the ICC
First chucking and now this? I do worry about the future of this once fine game
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Old 25-02-2005, 01:44 PM in reply to Seamer's post starting "I read Marenello's comments, smiled and..."
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If Woolmer and the PCB were genuinly concerned about this umpires situation, they would have brought it up at the next ICC meeting
That has already happened.The PCB has for your knowlegge recomended the ICC to consider having nuetral umpires for even one-day games. And the ICC have replied back by saying they will consider the request and it will be discussed at the next ICC meeting.
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Old 25-02-2005, 01:57 PM in reply to Zainub's post starting "That has already happened.The PCB has..."
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That's what they should do. Leave the media out of it, bring the matter up privately, and then at least cynical people like myself would be placated
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Old 26-02-2005, 09:54 AM in reply to Shaka's post starting "He has a point. Hawkeye, assuming it is..."
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Hawkeye, assuming it is implemented under strict supervision, would be a consistent and impartial solution to getting rid of the current atmosphere of suspicion and doubt. Hawkeye isn't as good at judging the situation as an umpire on the field, but at least the decisions will be the same for both teams
Beny and Seamer amongst others may have seen the use of Hawkeye during the Aus Open.

The commentators took it as gospel, (eg Lleyton has a point there, caught the last 32nd of the line)!!!

It must be damn close to being true...Angus Fraser bowled 100 balls with it watching about 3 years ago and all of them Hawkeye got correct...Its good enough for me..
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Old 26-02-2005, 12:05 PM in reply to Paoli's post starting "Beny and Seamer amongst others may have..."
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The thing is P69, that hawkeye in tennis only has to track where the ball bounced, which is simple enough. The problem with hawkeye in cricket is that it has to try and predict what happened to the ball after it bounced which is a far from perfect science. Hawkeye in cricket has a way to go yet.
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