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| I have been singing Jazba Junoon all day long Shaka Hai juzba junoon to himmat na harr (if you have the passion then never lose hope) Justojo jo kare wo choaa asman ... (those who work hard can reach even the sky) In principle I couldn't have agreed with you more. This may not be the strongest Pakistani side we have all seen and are ever likely to see in the future, but it certainly is one of my favorites. The most important thing Woolmer brings to our side is a sort of team spirit and work ethic I have previously dreamed of having even with the likes of Saeed Anwer, Wasim Akram and Waqar Younus in the side. Last edited by Zainub : 28-03-2005 at 08:12 PM. |
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| No doubt Woolmer's job is now safe for another year at least, barring something catasrophic. The 4 ODI wins over India bought him time till the Aussie tour, and then despite the Tests whitewash, the strong VB Series showing bought him further time. What this win does is give Woolmer and Inzi the leeway to be bolder, to force Bari's hand occasionally and also to work on the missing gaps. It was shocking that many journalists and pundits were calling for his head before this win, but at least this will now shut them all up! He has done very well so far, and I thought that even after the Calcutta defeat. A note of caution though, I hope our fans out in the streets do not get carried away! There are plenty of things still to work on, and this team is still finding its feet, it is by no means a finished article - only a few years of good coaching, a professional set-up and a strong environment can cultivate these chaps into a world-class outfit. However, the raw ingredients seem to be mostly there, and the most important ingredients of all - team ethic and a fighting spirit - seem to be there in abundance. That is something all great Pakistan sides have had in the past, so well done Inzi and well done Woolmer.
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Maranello, I think Pakistani fans shouldn't get carried away just as they shouldn't get too critical when we lose. There are obviously teams like Australia, England and India still ahead of us right now despite this win. I think though that we have served notice last few months that Pakistan can think about challenging these teams again, if the fast bowling department can recover from the injury setbacks of the last 12 months. Kaneria has come of age as a test bowler, impressive showings against both Australia and now India back that up. Ther are still some issues to be settled but we are gradually whittling down to a decent test 11. Not there yet but the progress is on course which is all you can ask. Tomorrow's Pakistani press should make for interesting reading. |
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| Certainly.Defeats and wins in India Pakistan contests are rarely reacted to in a rational manner (in either country for that matter). So far the reaction from the electronic media has been quite predictable. One thing is for sure the media will not be as kind to Woolmer as we here are. In an analysis show on GEO tv where Miandad appeares as the analyst he wasn't even mentioned, not even once. Just to give others an idea, this appeared in the last Sunday supplement of Dawn, in response to the defeat in Calcutta: Consistency Of A Different Kind, by Zaheer Abbas Quote:
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| I don't particularly enjoy that show. Although some how I still convince my self to watch every time it is on. It is not only about Woolmer Shaka. Miandad seemed to change parties to and fro right through. Asked to reflect on Younis Khan's 267 after day 2 his response was '1 or 2 innings do not make a great batsmen' today though as they connected via phone to talk to Younis it was almost as if he had turned over a new leaf 'I always knew that you were a very comitted and hard working batsmen, you played very well, this and that'. I have watched Asif Iqbal show too. My family though is a geo-addict so sometimes things really are beyong my control. I don't mind listening to Sakindar Bakht (on Indus News) his views are mostly constructive, and he does give credit where its due. |
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| Inzi dedicates Banglore win to me....(or 'us' rather) Captain Inzamamul Haq on Monday dedicated his team's series-levelling victory in the third Test against India to Pakistanis. Quote:
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| I agree we are getting carried away with this one test win, and to be honest Woolmer had no part in it. It is all because of Inzimam's hardwork and determination. At the end of the day the problem with openers is still there, in the last 5 test matches we have had 5 different test pairs which I must say says alot about Woolmer's inability as a coach, under Miandad our opening slot was pretty much settled with Imran Farhat and Taufeeq Umar as test openers and Imran Farhat and Yasir Hameed as ODI openers. Woolmer has messed everything up I must say and the only two players who have shown any sort of improvement under him are Shoaib Malik and Younis Khan. Regards Nauman Admin - pakistanicricket.net Last edited by admin : 02-04-2005 at 06:51 PM. Reason: To remove the hyperlink |
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| Hi Nauman, your response is pretty typical of the mindset of vested interests in Pakistan. I see Javed Miandad has also gone out of his way to praise everyone from Inzimam down, meticulously leaving out Woolmer. I am amazed you have claimed that he has messed up the opening spots which Miandad had consolidated. Both Farhat and Taufeeq Umar ( I remain a big fan) have been given opportunities to stake their claim but failed to take them. Taufeeq can perhaps be considered unlucky, but he was clearly struggling. Farhat is a gifted player but has an obvious flaw in that he hooks and pulls aerially giving plenty of chances to be caught. I do hope you return here and back up your argument that dropping him was a mistake because I can't see how you can possibly justify it. As for not getting carried away, I'm sorry, but winning this test match against all the odds against a very strong Indian line up and with a weakened team deserves all the accolades in the world. Mean-minded petty nit-picking is not the order of the day. I am just pleased that this squad and it's management has been able to show the middle finger to all the critics and doom mongers with a spanking good win. Regards Shaka |
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