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Old 27-11-2006, 06:45 PM
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When bits fell to pieces...

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Originally Posted by Osman Samiuddin
Between them, Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik and Abdul Razzaq have produced three fifties and three wickets in the series, a haul that might be excused from one of them let alone all. They provided 43 runs between them here, Razzaq's 50-ball seven a particularly inept stand-out. If it's just about passable in ODIs to have so many - and even there the results are not emphatic - it is pointless in Test cricket. They have been hampered by it in Multan, they already are here and it is likely to remain a problem anywhere around the world.

What harm in trying out just one specialist? Bolster the batting, perhaps, with an Asim Kamal, Faisal Iqbal or Yasir Hameed? Or beef up the bowling with Samiullah Khan Niazi or Abdul Rahman? They are all specialists, regular squad members now too, yet only one of them has played Test cricket this year, their careers, in effect, stalled because of Pakistan's preference for bits and pieces. As their prospects stall, so it is likely will Pakistan's.
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Old 27-11-2006, 07:42 PM in reply to Rachael's post "When bits fell to pieces..."
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I'm a big fan of Woolmer, but that's one area I've never seen an eye to eye with him, like Fetcher (and perhaps like most other modern day coaches) he seems to have a preference for the occasional all rounder over the specialist. That's an approach that makes sense in one-day cricket, but can back-fire in test cricket.

Only time will tell how much this will cost Pakistan, it may well turn out to be the case that at least one of these three (i.e. Razzaq, Malik, Hafeez) groom into world-class all rounders over the course of his remaining time in charge (he's contracted till the World Cup) but given our next test tour is away in South Africa, you have to be skeptical.

I have nothing against these players, they're all exceptionally versatile players, Malik and Hafeez especially because unlike Razzaq they're also good fielders, but when the Pakistan team has series like these, where they keep on failing when the batting/bowling conditions aren't favourable, and spring up they a half-decent shows when the pressure is off/or less, you have to wonder if its not unfair to label them bits-and-pieces cricketers, a cliched term I like to limit my use of.

But its strange dilemma you know, apart from Asim Kamal, the other alternatives specialists haven't ever exactly made outright claims for selection either, Hameed and Iqbal have long had reputations as flat track bullies, and with Iqbal in particular his performances in England did not do much to change the perception. Only Asim Kamal can argue he never let go off the opportunities that were presented to him. The treated he's got is nothing short of unexplainable.

As for Samiullah Niazi, it seems the management just doesn't have any confidence in him at all at this stage, and probably didn't want to spoil his confidence by handing him a test debut on a surface like one they're playing on right now at the NSK - slow and low as any you'd find. But then, it makes no sense to add Mohammad Sami in the squad if they weren't going to change the playing XI, or perhaps they were just trying to give a signal, that he's in the selectors minds for the SA tour, given the shortage of fast bowling resources that's surfaced following Akhtar and Asif's drugs bans. But then again, they could just have included him in the squad for SA there and then, makes no point to add him in the 15 for this test at the last minute and then not play him. Bizarre really.

Yet having said all that, it was interesting to note that this was just the 2nd time in all of Pakistan's test history that we managed to go through an entire series without any changes in the XI. Hmm, ironic isn't it, for so long my only complaint with the selectors was that they weren't consistent enough, chopping and changing as if they had no confidence in anyone they selected and that they were rather just chosen randomly on gut feeling, and now here I am, when in persisting with Razzaq. and co. they've shown they have just shown the same faith I always criticised them for not showing, now I'm criticising them for preferring specialists to part time all rounders.

The more I think about this, the more I am glad I'll never be a cricket selector in real life.
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Old 28-11-2006, 03:40 AM in reply to Zainub's post starting "I'm a big fan of Woolmer, but that's..."
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It's stretching a bit too much calling Hafeez and Malik allrounders. They are both playing as batsmen and they are batsmen who can bowl a bit. One has to look at the so called specialists available and compare them against Hafeez and Malik. If the names that crop up are Hameed, Bazid, Faisal then I doubt they would have fared any better than Hafeez/Malik. BTW, this entire series, it's only Yousuf and to a lesser extent Farhat who have scored. Even specialists like Inzi and Younis Khan have failed so I don't see the point of only slagging Malik/Hafeez.
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Old 28-11-2006, 05:08 PM in reply to Orchid's post starting "It's stretching a bit too much calling..."
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i dont think younis khan should be slagged. i think he is doing well, living up to his average atleast. inzi is struggling, he will bounce back soon, however his mere presence in the team lifts everyone's spirits up.i would go for a 3rd specialist seamer then razzaq. he has no place in test cricket
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