Pakistan Have Found there oppeners

[Uham]

In my opinion Pakistan has found there 2 normal oppeners. Two of my favorite players that I always tought were underrated. Mohammad Hafeez and Yasir Hameed. Hafeez made his comeback against England and Hameed with Rehman just came back against WINDES. These two have been the two most underrated batsmen in the PCB. I have supported them all since they made there debutes. And I finally think the problem with the oppeners have been solved. The struggle of watching diffrent oppeners match by match. It didnt happen till the last match of the PAK WINDES series. And this is no fluke trust me they looked very good out there playing to gather. This might be the reason PAKISTAN WIN THE WORLD CUP. The biggest problem this whole year SOLVED!!! What do you think of Hameed and Hafeez???

[ll0OoO0ll]

I have to agree with most of the part;however, I think for the past couple of years Yasir Hameed was left out of the squad for underperformance and it was justifiable in a sharp contrast to Hafeez who is more reliable and sensible. Hafeez also holds the ability to be effectively aggressive if needed(and not to mention of the relatively better english language speaking skills he has in the whole team). There is always room for improvement i know, but I really strive to have an opener or a batsman in our squad who enters with a blast, like Dhoni, Sehwag or Tendulkar entered the cricket world and they never looked back. Even though we have slightly better players yet i think, our opening still remains fragile.

And FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, stop screwing up with Afridi anymore, his talent was viciously wasted by sending him opener in a mere fantasy to see flying sixes all over the place in the first 15 overs but our unrated, low life administrative morons at PCB couldnt learn it in years and years worth of wasted experience.

[Orchid]

Originally Posted by ll0OoO0ll

(and not to mention of the relatively better english language speaking skills he has in the whole team).

Not that it means anything to be able to converse in English, but Hameed is no worse than Hafeez in his English skills either. I've heard his interviews and those of his brothers last time India was playing in Peshawar (don't know which year though) and everybody interviewed had no difficulty in that language. Also, I remember, long time ago Bob Woolmer brought Hameed in as a guest in his website for chatting with the fans and he was excellent there too.

One more thing, Hameed is also one of the unfortunate souls who has been dropped after a good performance. Last time we tourned West Indies, he was parachuted suddenly out of nowhere and he made a gritty half century but then he was dropped from the team for subsequent tours. After that, he's had to deal with disaster, as his village was destroyed in the earth quake. But hopefully, he is back and we need him.

[ll0OoO0ll]

Not that I hold anything against anyone who struggles in speaking english but perhaps my point was a lil too subtle. IMO, which maybe totally wrong, I think the cause of our players' inability to perform well while playing underpressure is simply lack of mental development, which usually comes either by a having long experience or by going thru a decade or more of academic education that includes problem solving and developing logical analytical skills. Of course there are exception to every theory and there are players all around the world who were not scholars but very, very good sportsmen. Unfortunately, in our setup, youngsters have to struggle day n night and trade off their education with the dream of becoming national sports heros. Interesting enough, there are couple of exceptions to this particular theory now... yes, Imran Khan, Majid Khan, Saeed Anwar and Rameez Raja,etc who were not only great players but highly educated individuals as well.

[Orchid]

Hmmm Ramiz Raja a great player? Maybe you meant Wasim Raja? Even then, it's controversial, since not everybody would agree that Wasim did justice to his talent.

One guy who instantly comes to mind as being very very street savvy and a fighter and one of the greatest as far as far as Pakistan is concerned and without the education to go with it is Javed Miandad. His example alone should be enough to dispel any doubt that you can be a great player without a University degree (even though we all know how everybody seems to be University educated in our parts of the world). In the current lot, I doubt Kamran Akmal has much education, but he is mentally strong and quick thinking as anybody else.

It's also wrong to assume that only those who are fluent in English are actually educated (though that's the widespread beleif these days, it seems). People from less affluent background whose parents cannot afford to send them to Private/English Medium schools, can and have made it big and occupied influential positions, in my country atleast, and I see no reason to beleive that's not the case in Paksitan either.

As for education instilling analytical skills, I doubt that's possible with the type of education that's imparted in South Asia. As far as I know, it's still memorise everything and score big rather than be inquisitive and original.

[Mr Hutt]

Good to see ya boom boom

I agree Pak has found its openers and no English is not a neccesity.. in fact i dont think i care if we need a translator to answer the interviewrs as long as we play upto our skill and beat the hell out of anyone who dares step up to our plate!

[ll0OoO0ll]

Originally Posted by Mr Hutt

I agree Pak has found its openers and no English is not a neccesity.. in fact i dont think i care if we need a translator to answer the interviewrs as long as we play upto our skill and beat the hell out of anyone who dares step up to our plate!

Totally agreed Mr Hutt, and thanks for NOT taking my point beyond the realms of context and throwing it out of proportion. I will love to see our players proudly stick with our national language. Of course, speaking english does not represent one's ability to make logically correct and timely accurate decisions, neither does it represent one's educational background;however, cricket is not just the display of your physical abilities, it also has a lil to do with having the skill of using one's noodle plate. I find it hard to accept the night before 1992's world cup final with Inzi, being our hypothetical skipper, going thru a thinking/planning process to analyze the English squad and picking Ian Botham as the weakest link to be pummeled tommorrow.
Havind education(either by english or urdu medium, by conceptual methods or by memorization process, at Oxford or in a small rural school) may not gurantee anything but it just may increase your chances to have a relatively strong and cool mind(the noodle plate) that performs better in handling difficult situations.
And as far as performance in sports(and someother walks of life) goes, there are other factors that effect the bottom line.. couple of which maybe the strong will to fight and the love of saving your country's pride.
Again as I said, this is just my personal opinion and I may be totally wrong.

[tim93au]

When the Pakistanis last toured Australia. In the ODIs the commentators were saying Salman Butt is going to be a great and hes like tendulkar....What happened there!?

[Uham]

Tim that is the COMMENTERS oppinion not the truth or fact. I can say that Monty Panser is better then Shane Warne and MURLETHRAN put to gather. We all make oppinions and comments at times maybe at that time he was the best player in the world but not any more. COMMON SENSE

[tim93au]

Common sense, pfft wateva