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Old 02-05-2007, 11:53 AM
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Fatwa on PJ MIR?

The following story says that a Fatwa had been issued again Mir which forced him to leave Pakistan.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...2-5-2007_pg2_4
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:27 PM in reply to DomainK's post "Fatwa on PJ MIR?"
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Interesting read:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016277.php
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The last section is a bit of a laugh

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"The difference between Bob Woolmer's murder and most of these is that Jamaican killers tend to use knives or guns. The fact that Bob Woolmer was strangled has led the police here to conclude that his killer came from outside Jamaica," Shields said
LOL If that's the best Shields can come up with, then we can safely say the killer(s) will never be caught.
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Old 03-05-2007, 03:01 PM in reply to DomainK's post starting "Interesting..."
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That idiot has ran off because he knew he'd been criticized heavily for his stupid statement. Even the PEC head said that it was a stupid statement and blasted PJ MIr. PJ is one of the lapdogs of Musharraff, just like Naseem Ashraf, and they are trying their best to show the world that Pakistan is on the verge of being in hands of extremism. First that drama of Jamia Hafza,then few staged bombings and now this idiot runs away saying that a fatwa was issued on him and he had to run away to save his life. That goon should know that fatwa of only prominent and authentic muftis is considered to be applicable. Nobody in Pakistan knows who has issued the fatwa and that goon won't even mention the names because there isn't anyone who did this. Its yet another effort of the Musharaff team to damage Pakistans integrity and to get extension of Musharraff's rule by US. These traitors are destroying us.

And what the hell BBC is doing calling "Tableeghi Jamat" as extremists? What they know about the jamat to pass such judgement. If Jamat is extremist then so are the Rabbi's among Jews and the missionary movements of Christians.
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I see no reference in the linked article to Tabliqhy Jamaat as "extremists", by the BBC or anyone else. Have you seen that somewhere else?
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This article, in fact this whole issue, is so pathetic that it is beneath contempt. It is truly shocking that people continue to opine on matters of which they have absolutely no knowledge.

Anyway.

Idiots' Guide to Islam - a "fatwa" is NOT a death warrant. In fact, it has nothing to do with death unless the case being considered is a capital offence. A "fatwa" is a specifically defined term in Islamic jurisprudence, and in laymen's terms, a "fatwa" is merely a legal ruling, on whatever topic the legal authority is being asked to adjudicate on. So, one could ask for, and receive, if one is so-minded, a fatwa on whether a Muslim is allowed to breach copyright. Or whether it is legal for a Muslim to download pirated songs. And so on (the 'fatwa' on both these questions, in the view of most renowned Islamic Jurists, is no).

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a 'story' built-up almost entirely on unnamed sources and spurious quotations has no credibility. Does anyone know who issued this fatwa? What are the contents of this alleged fatwa? Even if such a fatwa exists, in all probability the contents would have been something unremarkable like "the statements of P J Mir critising Islamic prayer are contrary to well-known Islamic practice".

Idiots' Guide to Jurisprudence -
a legal ruling only has validity if issued by a properly qualified body that is recognised and accepted as being able to issue the said ruling. For instance, if Mr. Nick Griffin issues a "High Court" ruling saying that all blacks, Muslims and Jews must be made to leave the UK by this Sunday, that "ruling" would not be considered as legally binding, or even remotely relevant to anyone, since Mr Griffin is not a judge on the High Court. So the first question one should ask, if one is serious about this matter, is this: Whoever issued this fatwa (if indeed such a fatwa exists), are they Islamically qualified to issue a fatwa? Since not many Muslims are...


But anyway, why let silly things like facts distract us, eh?
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