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Old 14-07-2007, 10:21 AM
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Murali 700: Congratulations

Murali became only the second man (but the faster of the two) to reach 700 wickets in Test cricket. A great feat for a poor confectioner's son from rural Sri Lanka. Congtatulations and well done.

No doubt he will soon pass Warne as the highest test wicket taker of all time. I wonder what he plans to do afterwards? At 35 he still seems bouncy and fit, but he is probably thinking of retirement and getting back to his family.
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Old 14-07-2007, 12:23 PM in reply to Nostromo's post "Murali 700: Congratulations"
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Murali became only the second man (but the faster of the two) to reach 700 wickets in Test cricket. A great feat for a poor confectioner's son from rural Sri Lanka. Congtatulations and well done.

No doubt he will soon pass Warne as the highest test wicket taker of all time. I wonder what he plans to do afterwards? At 35 he still seems bouncy and fit, but he is probably thinking of retirement and getting back to his family.
Yep, great feat nontheless, congrats Murali, wont be long now before he breaks Warnes record.
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Old 19-07-2007, 08:01 AM in reply to Navdeep's post starting "Yep, great feat nontheless, congrats..."
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Whilst it is an awesome acheivement to take 700 test wickets one has to question Murali's record. I do not intend to offend anyone but for several years many have questioned his action and some are still questioning it today.

Australian umpires Hair and Emerson have both called him and Chris Broad acting as a match referee questioned his Doosra (see explaination below) which forced Murali into a bowlers rehab under the supervision of the ICC.

The results of this rehab found his Doosra to be illegal and rather than ban the delivery the ICC changed the rules! Which i find rather interesting. Would they have done that if Warne's flipper was illegal? No. They would have banned him for life and rubbed his records from the books.

The row over Murali's action still rumbles on with former Test legends Michael Holding, Bishan Bedi and Dean Jones all questioning whether or not he chucks the ball.

As I said before it is an awesome acheivement in taking 700 test wickets and he could go on to break the 1,000 barrier, but for me Warne will always be number one as his action has never been questioned. And thats coming from a pom!


The DOOSRA
The doosra is a relatively new type of ball. Saqlain Mushtaq of Pakistan is credited with inventing the delivery which was integral to his success and indeed the history of off-spin bowling, as perhaps no off-spinner prior to him had bowled a delivery that had turned from leg to off. The naming of the delivery is attributed to Moin Khan, the former Pakistani wicketkeeper, who would shout to Mushtaq to bowl the "doosra" (the other one) from behind the stumps. Tony Greig, a commentator in one of the matches, eventually managed to link the word to the delivery and confirmed it from Saqlain in a post match interview. Thus the term doosra became a part of cricketing culture. The doosra has now become an important part of an off-spinner's armoury. (taken from WIKIPEDIA)

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Old 20-07-2007, 07:51 AM in reply to Verso's post starting "Whilst it is an awesome acheivement to..."
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quote=Verso;142001I do not intend to offend anyone but for several years many have questioned his action and some are still questioning it today.

Australian umpires Hair and Emerson have both called him and Chris Broad acting as a match referee questioned his Doosra (see explaination below) which forced Murali into a bowlers rehab under the supervision of the ICC.

The row over Murali's action still rumbles on with former Test legends Michael Holding, Bishan Bedi and Dean Jones all questioning whether or not he chucks the ball.
Here we go again. Messers Hair, Emerson, Broad, Holding, Bedi and Jones are not some sort of gods; they human and so falliable and what they say is NOT gospel. They are the sort (and there are lots of such people) who simply have to question anyone or anything that seems different to their narrow path of thinking. Murali's action has been tested time and again and cleared; but these guys' pride was hurt when they were proven wrong and so they go on and on about it. I think it is high time they shut-up on this issue and looked at some other controversy to stir up. No doubt they will find something if they look hard enough.
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Old 20-07-2007, 08:47 AM in reply to Nostromo's post starting "Here we go again. Messers Hair,..."
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Here we go again. Messers Hair, Emerson, Broad, Holding, Bedi and Jones are not some sort of gods; they human and so falliable and what they say is NOT gospel. They are the sort (and there are lots of such people) who simply have to question anyone or anything that seems different to their narrow path of thinking. Murali's action has been tested time and again and cleared; but these guys' pride was hurt when they were proven wrong and so they go on and on about it. I think it is high time they shut-up on this issue and looked at some other controversy to stir up. No doubt they will find something if they look hard enough.
The point is that his action was found to be suspect and the rules were changed. Don't forget that Messrs Hair, Emerson, Broad, Holding, Bedi and Jones are all professionals in their field so their opinion should be taken on board.

Murali has got a suspect action. People will question it. Thats cricket!
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Old 20-07-2007, 09:02 AM in reply to Verso's post starting "The point is that his action was found..."
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It is absolutely ridiculous the number of wickets that Murali is allowed to take. The recent series against Bangladesh is an example. In the first innings when Bangladesh were bowled out cheaply, Murali is thrown the ball in order to wipe out the tail and finish with 5-15, 4-14 and 6-20 odd. If he played for any other team he would simply have not got a bowl in that innings and the other bowlers would have been able to wrap up the innings. On the first morning of test match, Murali was actually the most used bowler in some of those innings and he really was not needed - it is not as if Vaas, Fernando and Malinga were not taking wickets. In the first test, he picked up the 5th wicket and came on to bowl at 40-4. He was then kept on till the end of the innings. Why? In the second test he took the last three wickets at 40-7. It is as if he has something in his contract saying that he MUST bowl regardless of whether other players are doing the job (he bowled more overs than Vaas). The same thing happened in the final test.

There is no doubting that Muralitharan is a fantastic bowler, but he would probably have 200 fewer wickets if he played for a different team. It must really annoy the likes of Vaas who do all the hard work and see Muralitharan given every possible opportunity to improve his figures.
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Old 20-07-2007, 11:00 AM in reply to Verso's post starting "The point is that his action was found..."
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Don't forget that Messrs Hair, Emerson, Broad, Holding, Bedi and Jones are all professionals in their field so their opinion should be taken on board.
No, I'll not forget it, your honour. I just noticed that all of them had haloes around their heads and were walking six inches off the ground.
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Old 20-07-2007, 11:18 AM in reply to Verso's post starting "The point is that his action was found..."
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The point is that his action was found to be suspect and the rules were changed. Don't forget that Messrs Hair, Emerson, Broad, Holding, Bedi and Jones are all professionals in their field so their opinion should be taken on board.
Uhm...there was a time when "professionals in their field" were dead certain the earth was flat

I think Murali deserves all his accolades. And I hope he continues to play for another 3 or 4 years.
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Old 21-07-2007, 01:34 PM in reply to Wanderer's post starting "Uhm...there was a time when..."
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He is a good player and my favorite spinner so I hope he continue his good bowling even in Australia and play another 3 or 4 years and take 1000+ wickets.
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finish with 5-15, 4-14 and 6-20 odd. If he played for any other team he would simply have not got a bowl in that innings and the other bowlers would have been able to wrap up the innings. ...There is no doubting that Muralitharan is a fantastic bowler, but he would probably have 200 fewer wickets if he played for a different team. It must really annoy the likes of Vaas who do all the hard work and see Muralitharan given every possible opportunity to improve his figures.
it seems you are saying murali doesn't do hard work. but with those figures who can seriously argue with the decision to throw him the ball.
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