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Old 21-12-2007, 02:31 PM in reply to Speedboy Salesman's post starting "Are you kidding me? Tremlett is nowhere..."
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Good point SS. Theres a reason why he's currently no where near the test side.
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Are you kidding me? Tremlett is nowhere near good enough to be an international fast bowler. Tremlett's selection would be terrible.
When you look at the first class figures I don't see why not -

Harmison 28.85 econ 3.13 s/r 55.20
Tremlett 27.10 econ 3.31 s/r 49.10
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First Class figures dont mean much. Vaughan has a FC aveage of 30 odd as does Tres.... In fact, a lot of the England players have better test averages.

To replace Harmison you need someone who is fast and gets bounce. Broad is only medium pace and Tremlett cant get the pace either. Remember Harmison has been clocked at 95-96mph when fully fit, there arent too many bowlers around who can match that. The stats have showed that Harmison cant be replaced. Look at the games he's missed since his debut and look at the results - Off the top of my head its something like 9 losses, 7 draws and a couple of wins.
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First Class figures dont mean much. Vaughan has a FC aveage of 30 odd as does Tres.... In fact, a lot of the England players have better test averages.

To replace Harmison you need someone who is fast and gets bounce. Broad is only medium pace and Tremlett cant get the pace either. Remember Harmison has been clocked at 95-96mph when fully fit, there arent too many bowlers around who can match that. The stats have showed that Harmison cant be replaced. Look at the games he's missed since his debut and look at the results - Off the top of my head its something like 9 losses, 7 draws and a couple of wins.
In Sri Lanka Harmison was bowling at 80mph. We could have done with him just bowling at 90 never mind 95-96. Why should he be wasting his energy bowling 40 overs at Colombo at 80 when he would be much more effective at top speed.

Broad still has to build up stamina and his speed will probably increase when he gets to 24/25. Tremlett is capable of bowling at 88 and with 6'7 gets bounce but he needs to bowl at the batmen.
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Old 19-01-2008, 06:31 AM in reply to Speedboy Salesman's post starting "Are you kidding me? Tremlett is nowhere..."
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No bowler can get some batsmen out at will but harmison didnt bowl that bad the problem was people like sangakkara will wait ten maidens for a bad ball and he gave them the drive so he could get an edge it was down to great batting
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