Some voters may have had a couple of people they would have voted for. Doing a multiple choice poll though would be inaccurate because some people would have used more votes than others. This way the 7 voters who didn't vote for Keedy or Harrison get one extra vote each if they want to use it to vote for either Harrison or Keedy.

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I haven't voted in this poll (nor shall I), but the interest in the voting system is itself of interest to me. Ask our Aussie contributors about PR. I read the ABC's description of their parliamentary voting system during the weekend. It's served the Aussies pretty well for half a century or so, but it is fiendishly complicated. On the other hand, if they can count a general election in 12 hours, maybe their electoral commission has the software we need? I'm not going to ask Beny or Big Merv to tell us if Little Johnnie Howard will continue to serve them well, of course ...

(One other point: if we adopted the Aussie rules, I would not be allowed to sit out this poll.)

These things are always a bit odd.. not least because of strategic voting: the only thing I was determined on was finding a candidate to stop Hutton / Pietersen / Mascarenhas - but when I realised that it didn't really matter WHICH of the non-Keedy players I voted for as Keedy was almost certainly going to romp away with the award... I gave it to Lewis on pretty arbitrary basis that I like non-express bowling.

If I had thought my vote would make any difference I'd probably have started a campaign for Wallace.. but that looked like a non starter. Had we had a more sophisticated polling system I'd probably have singled out Carberry as the most deserving compromise candidate likely to get the most 2nd / 3rd votes and backed him.

Once you get a stack of voters all making strategic decisions like the above ANY voting system gets a bit random!

Mike
What you are saying, there are going to be 21 votes, from 14 voters, seems odd, however I have made my thoughts clear, I think keedy has won.
But if you want another poll, I will not argue, and to prove I am not being partizan, because Keedy comes from Lancashire, what about putting your new vote to the whole of the England forum, and only members who have voted could not have a vote, I doubt Keedy would win such a vote but Amen to that.

Ern

PS It was hard for me to decide betwen Keedy and Pieterson.

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Are you suggesting that other members of the England forum aren't aware of this thread? It should be visible in New Posts and Last Post on this forum which is viewable within forumdisplay.php. for members looking at thread titles on the England forum.

Another point: if I leave this poll open longer and someone comes along and votes for Harrison does that mean it's a tied result with two winners?

Would it be fair to Harrison for me to close the poll now when he is possibly gaining on Keedy?

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Except for the Aussies' PR system, which, according to the ABC, makes tactical voting all but impossible. I'd believe them, if only on the basis that the counting rules are so flipping complex!

The UN is a bit tied up in Afghanistan at the moment, but they might put us on their waiting list. Now hold on: what happened to that ink mark on my finger?

Of couse I am not saying they are not aware of this thread, but it would seem I though only those who submitted teams could vote, if I am wrong, then I stand corrected.

Well you seemed happy enough with a tied result when you said you wanted the other 7 to vote, so I really don't see your point, it's OK to have a tied vote with one system, but not with another.

This is what you said earlier.

I have no problem whatsoever with you leaving the poll open for Harrison voters to come and cast their vote, even if that meant Keedy lost.

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Okay, at the risk of being accused of rigging the voting so "my man" doesn't lose, I have closed the poll and declare Gary Keedy, Slow Left Arm Orthodox bowler, from Lancashire the winner of the WAT Future Test Player - England 2004 award. Hip, hip...Hooray!!!

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Dammit! And I thought Jefferson was going to make a come back! Also, Ernest has ruled out PR; but what if I declare this a military coup and invade world-a-team with my cricketing sledgehammer? Would that give Harrison an extra vote? Also, could I enforce martial law and prevent Ernest's vote from counting? Maybe I could then demand worldwide aid from the UN in return for a return to democracy? How does that sound? Of course, any accompanying iconoclasm and book burnings would be welcomed.