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| World A-Team Selections 2006 World A Team Selection Threads for 2006 |
| View Poll Results: Crunch time: pick XI from this list... | |||
| Compton |    | 16 | 69.57% |
| Newman |    | 17 | 73.91% |
| Shah |    | 20 | 86.96% |
| Joyce |    | 21 | 91.30% |
| Sales |    | 12 | 52.17% |
| Yardy |    | 22 | 95.65% |
| Clarke | | 12 | 52.17% |
| Dalrymple | | 17 | 73.91% |
| Foster | | 20 | 86.96% |
| Rashid | | 18 | 78.26% |
| Smith | | 10 | 43.48% |
| Broad | | 22 | 95.65% |
| Mahmood | | 18 | 78.26% |
| Tremlett | | 21 | 91.30% |
| Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| Rachael the side is fine - why pack the side with batsmen?.
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| In fairness to the current line up for the particular XI listed (#114458 )but Adil Rashid could easily bat above the wicket keeper. He is a much better player than just a lower order slogger or tail-batting. Broad/Mahmood/Tremlett are all back-of-a-length bowlers; my suggestion, if we were to drop a bowler for the extra batsman, would be to drop one of those three.
__________________ Watch this for a perfect about. James May Last edited by Ernest : 05-10-2006 at 09:41 PM. Reason: Link |
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| Rachael, we need to be transparent and wait until all the sides are in. Last year each selector's side was posted with their key players, can we do this again before getting into the cut and thrust of selection? |
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| OK... I've had further submissions... and as promised... I've published everything that has been sent my way: it seems to me that we emerge with a clear division between serious contenders (those with 5 or more votes out of 11 polled) and the rest (with 3 or fewer votes). I've therefore added a poll to allow selection from those who make the cut. Any objections... speak now! The Shah / Sales / Clarke issue is still the biggest sticking point: Shah and Sales are equal with Clarke just one vote behind. It looks as if we will also need to prune one from Broad, Tremlett, Mahmood and Tom Smith: almost all of us want a specialist spinner and three seamers. In order to get a clearer picture I am conducting a confidential poll: the following PMs have been sent to all contributers: Quote:
Code: Joyce 11 Yardy 11 Broad 9 Newman 9 Tremlett 9 Compton 8 Dalrymple 7 Mahmood 7 Rashid 6 Foster 5 Sales 5 Shah 5 Tom Smith 5 Clarke 5 Mascarenhas 3 Davies 3 Doshi 3 Ed Smith 2 Onions 2 Pettini 2 Prior 1 Sutton 1 Last edited by Rachael : 06-10-2006 at 09:55 PM. |
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| Code: adamberry Andy Mellon Collyisamackem Darksideofthemoon Compton Compton Compton Compton Newman Pettini (2) Newman Shah Joyce Shah Joyce Joyce Yardy Joyce Shah Yardy Sales (1) Yardy Yardy Clarke Davies Dalrymple Clarke Dalrymple Mascarenhas (2) Foster Foster Rashid Rashid Mascarenhas (1) Rashid Foster Broad Tremlett Onions Mahmood Mahmood Broad Tremlett Broad Tremlett Doshi Broad Tremlett Ernest Flanflinger Greg Mike Compton Pettini Compton Newman Newman Newman Newman Ed Smith Ed Smith Shah Yardy Joyce Joyce Joyce Joyce Sales Yardy Yardy Shah Yardy Clarke Dalrymple Dalrymple Clarke Foster Davies Davies Prior Doshi Broad Rashid Dalrymple Mahmood Mahmood Mahmood Broad Tom Smith Doshi Broad Tremlett Tremlett Tom Smith Onions Mahmood Rachael Statto Wanderer Vrock Compton Compton Joyce Compton Newman Newman Yardy Newman Joyce Joyce Shah Joyce Sales (2) Yardy Sales Shah Yardy Sales Clarke Sales Dalrymple Dalrymple Dalrymple/ Rashid Yardy Foster Sutton Foster/ Davies Rashid Rashid Rashid Broad Foster Mascarenhas (3) Tom Smith Tom Smith Broad Tom Smith (1) Broad Mahmood Mahmood Tremlett Tremlett Tremlett Tremlett Last edited by Mike : 10-10-2006 at 09:34 PM. |
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| I have now made my own personal choices in the poll: a curious side that has nothing of the balance I desired but will have to suffice as I simply CANNOT bring myself to contemplate seam-bowlers who spray the ball all over creation. I'm conscious that wickets in today's game are taken by pressure (in particular from drying up the runs) rather than through unplayable deliveries and that a bowler lacking in control is a passenger in a side as no captain can afford to bowl him. I'm conscious that some people argue that control comes with age... so I looked up a few players to see how they did in their first two seasons in Test cricket.... and these are the first four sets of results I brought up (no, I didn't scour the books for facts to fit my theory... I just went for one 'control' bowler, one 'pace' bowler and two 'swing' bowlers). Code: (6 ball overs) Mat O R W BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 McGrath 1993 (age: 22y 327d) 2 96 253 6 3/66 3/111 42.16 2.63 96.0 0 0 1994 (23y 326d) 6 225.2 577 13 4/92 5/157 44.38 2.56 104.0 0 0 Donald 1992 (age: 25y 73d) 4 180 473 24 7/84 12/139 19.70 2.62 45.0 2 1 1993 (26y 73d) 5 172 405 15 5/69 6/142 27.00 2.35 68.8 1 0 Lillee 1971 (age: 21y 167d) 2 499 199 8 5/84 5/124 24.87 2.39 62.3 1 0 1972 (22y 167d) 7 2004 799 39 6/66 10/181 20.48 2.39 51.3 3 1 Botham 1977 (age: 21y 38d) 2 438 202 10 5/21 5/68 20.20 2.76 43.8 2 0 1978 (22y 38d) 12 2877 1201 66 8/34 11/140 18.19 2.50 43.5 6 1 In picking from the 14 players in the poll I simply refused to consider Mahmood (3.44) and the simply atrocious Broad (3.7): they MAY improve... but to suggest they are nearer to being ready for (or more deserving of a call-up to) Test cricket than Smith and Tremlett just strikes me as bizarre - if they can't hack it bowling at lesser opposition how doesanyone expect them to fare when bowling on good batting tracks in Australia?. Code: Name Mat O M R W Ave Best 5 10 SR Econ Team SCJ Broad 14 402.5 80 1491 48 31.06 5-83 4 - 50.3 3.70 LEICS/ENG-A SI Mahmood 9 268.4 45 925 36 25.69 5-52 1 - 44.7 3.44 LANCS/ENG CT Tremlett 9 264.2 51 835 34 24.55 6-89 1 - 46.6 3.15 HANTS TC Smith 15 383 107 1073 35 30.65 4-57 - - 65.6 2.80 LANCS AD Mascarenhas 16 429 111 1074 43 24.97 6-65 2 - 59.8 2.50 HANTS Code: Compton Compton Newman Newman Joyce Shah Yardy Joyce Sales Yardy Dalrymple Sales Foster Dalrymple Rashid Foster Mascarenhas Rashid Smith Smith Tremlett Tremlett Last edited by Rachael : 07-10-2006 at 06:13 PM. |
07-10-2006, 03:17 PM
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| Rachael, I don't think you understand why Fletcher is keen to promote bowlers who can bowl at 90+ mph. That's because you need that kind of speed to be able to reverse swing the ball effectively. Conventional swing is best achieved at slower speeds of around 75-80 mph. I think Mahmood must be selected based on his ability to reverse swing the ball. |
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07-10-2006, 03:22 PM
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| The side Rachael without Mahmood Rachael has no penetration at all, also I think if the England selectors have picked him for the England Ashes tour, it seems very odd that he can't make the WAT A Team - I urge that Mahmood be put in the side.
__________________ Ern |
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| I think a three-man seam attack should include at least two quicks. Choose between Tremlett, Mahmood and Broad. The third seamer can be a slower bowler provided he can swing the ball. Choose between Mascarenhas, Smith and Onions. |
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He is emphatically NOT a manufactured bowler in the manner of Plunkett or Flintoff... and I am all in favour of that. With all that said... having a bowler capable of reverse swinging the ball is no use if the captain dare not toss him the ball... and I believe even Simon Jones was carried around the world as a passenger in the Test side for quite some time before Troy Cooley transformed him from a joke bowler who couldn't have hit a set of stumps even with no batsman in the way into devastating master of control with an ability to make batsmen play deliveries they would rather leave that was (however briefly) unrivalled in world cricket. If Mahmood can build on his performances in the final two ODIs of the season (where he bowled better than he did in ANY of his Test matches) then there's hope... and I'll happily vote for him for next year's 'A' team if he's eligible.... but what i will not do personally (though I may be forced to do as chair) is put him ahead of others such as Tom Smith... who's shown this season that he is ALREADY capable of such control. ps. You conveniently overlook the difference between Broad (going at nearly 4 an over) and Smith (going at under 3): a contrast where no significant difference of pace clouds the issue. Last edited by Rachael : 07-10-2006 at 03:40 PM. |
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