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| Shah and Bopara have to be musts. So too Swann, Broad and Tremlett.
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07-10-2007, 11:07 AM
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| I agree that Shah, Bopara, Broad and Tremlett should be well supported for inclusion but Swann is by no means certain despite a very good year. All-rounders have to shake off the "bits-and-pieces player" tag. As a right-arm off-break bowler he may not be an effective strike bowler at Test level. Last edited by admin : 07-10-2007 at 05:23 PM. |
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| Right, here's my team at the moment - it'll probably change very quickly after some discussion but then thats the point isn't it.  1. JL Denly (Kent) - okay, I've put my reservations aside for a minute here. He did play a few games in 2006 as well (and hit a couple of fifties), and has had a superb breakthrough season this year. Is also a handy leg-spinner, who can claim Warne himself as one of his victims. 2. PJ Horton (Lancashire) - classy batsman, and very solid. Whilst Lancashire's top order often crumbled, Horton was the only one to put up a hesistance on most occasions. Dependable. 3. MA Carberry (Hampshire) - I was always annoyed at the lack of opportunities he got at Kent. Now at Hampshire, he's making the most of it. 4. OA Shah (Middlesex) - 'nuff said. Solid run-machine, as ever. 5. RS Bopara (Essex) - again, 'nuff said. Already has ODI honours, should break into the Test side soon, I'd have thought. 6. AU Rashid (Yorkshire) - Batting all-rounder. Willing to overlook the poor bowling average owing to the fact that this season has been exceptionally bad for spin bowlers. 7. JS Foster / TR Ambrose - keeper. Not fussed which. 8. SCJ Broad (Leicestershire) - future England hope, useful with the bat makes him the obvious number eight. 9. K Ali (Worcestershire) - Much as I hate the idea... he has had a good year. 10. CE Shreck (Nottinghamshire) - Couple of good seasons of late for him. 11. G Onions (Durham) - Sharp bowler, could be another England bowler from the Durham stables.
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07-10-2007, 01:53 PM
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| Thus far our shortlist nominations appear to be as follows... Code: Billy Godleman Neil Edwards Paul Horton Joe Denly Michael Carberry James Hildreth David Sales Owais Shah Ed Joyce Adil Rashid Ravi Bopara Samit Patel Tim Ambrose James Foster Phil Mustard Steve Davies Stuart Broad Kabir Ali Chris Tremlett Charlie Shreck Mark Davies Tom Lungley James Harris Graham Swann Last edited by Rachael : 13-10-2007 at 05:05 PM. |
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| Just thought I'd point out the glaring ommision from admin's list of bowling averages 23 year old Naqqash Tahir who managed amdst the total shambles down at Edgebaston the highly respectable figures of 25 wickets at 27.26 (econ 2.9, sr 57.2) from his 11 (mostly rain affected) games. Now whilst I wouldn't put him ahead of the Kabir's, Onions', Harris', Broad's e.t.c of this world he is definitely one of the most underrated young English bowlers out there and if only he was blessed with a couple of yards more pace and a stronger frame that wouldn't keep breaking down he would very much be in the England frame. Hopefully working week in week out with someone of the calibre of AD allied to a season free of injuries can turn the enormous potential that we've only seen glimpses of into something more substantial. |
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10-10-2007, 12:24 AM
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| Good pickup, engssmoothcriminal. I hope there aren't anymore omissions. I've inserted Tahir's batting and bowling stats in the above tables. At 5'10", I wonder whether he'll be overlooked for England honours due to a large supply of taller quicks?
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| LVCC Batting 2007 PCA ratings Code: Player County Batting Bowling Field Capt. Wins Pld Pts Brown, Michael Hants 186.38 0.00 15 0 5.0 16 206.38 Carberry, M Hants 180.80 4.85 2 0 4.0 12 191.65 Sales, David Northants 174.29 -0.24 18 16 5.0 16 209.25 Denly, Joseph Kent 166.88 32.04 9 0 3.0 15 210.92 Horton, Paul Lancs 165.95 0.00 17 0 5.0 13 187.95 Hildreth, James Somerset 160.66 2.26 11 0 10.0 16 182.12 Newman, Scott Surrey 136.25 0.00 17 0 5.0 15 158.25 Edwards, Neil Somerset 134.02 0.00 7 0 10.0 16 149.22 Ambrose, T Warks 129.30 0.00 41 0 2.0 15 172.30 Moore, Stephen Worcs 128.91 -0.83 7 0 1.0 14 136.08 Mustard, Philip Durham 125.97 0.00 84 0 7.0 16 216.97 Westwood, Ian Warks 125.54 4.02 9 0 2.0 14 140.56 Gidman, Alex Gloucs 123.31 36.72 8 9 3.0 16 178.43 Troughton, Jim Warks 120.90 9.48 3 0 2.0 14 135.38 Bopara, R Essex 118.52 46.13 3 0 2.0 10 169.45 Patel, Samit Notts 118.48 39.47 7 0 5.0 13 169.14 Shah, Owais Middx 117.12 -1.38 4 0 4.0 10 123.74 Rashid, Adil Yorks 114.81 194.39 8 0 4.0 15 321.19 Loudon, Alex Warks 112.54 46.04 9 0 2.0 15 169.58 Davies, Steven Worcs 112.07 0.00 68 0 1.0 14 181.07 Nash, Chris Sussex 111.59 10.86 8 0 7.0 15 137.46 Trego, Peter Somerset 110.64 108.22 3 0 10.0 16 230.06 Peters, Stephen Northants 109.56 0.00 11 0 5.0 15 124.76 Lumb, Michael Hants 107.75 -1.27 14 0 5.0 16 125.49 Hodnett, Grant Gloucs 107.54 -0.34 6 0 3.0 15 115.99 New, Thomas Leics 105.80 14.24 14 0 2.0 15 136.04 Ali, Kadeer Gloucs 103.77 0.00 6 0 3.0 16 112.57 Stubbings, S Derbyshire 103.34 0.00 4 1 2.0 15 110.54 Foster, James Essex 98.91 0.00 44 0 6.0 15 148.51 Sayers, Joseph Yorks 97.91 0.00 6 0 3.0 14 106.91 Joyce, Ed Middx 89.51 -1.68 4 0 5.0 14 95.83 Sutton, Luke Lancs 89.32 0.00 52 0 5.0 15 146.32 Godleman, Billy Middx 85.11 -0.48 16 0 6.0 14 105.43 Chopra, Varun Essex 83.51 -1.52 11 0 5.0 15 97.19 Bresnan, T Yorks 82.81 187.57 6 0 4.0 15 280.38 Pipe, James Derbyshire 80.73 0.00 57 0 2.0 14 139.93 Blackwell, Ian Somerset 79.60 109.80 1 0 10.0 14 199.01 Batty, Gareth Worcs 75.89 198.23 7 2 1.0 14 284.12 Wallace, Mark Glamorgan 75.20 0.00 53 0 1.0 15 129.60 Mascarenhas, D Hants 72.64 98.17 2 0 4.0 10 176.81 Pettini, Mark Essex 69.32 0.00 15 12 6.0 16 98.92 Wagg, Graham Derbyshire 68.41 220.69 5 0 3.0 15 297.10
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| LVCC Bowling 2007 PCA ratings Code: Player County Batting Bowling Field Capt. Wins Pld Pts Lungley, Tom Derbyshire 19.06 261.82 4 0 3.0 15 287.27 Ali, Kabir Worcs 36.46 236.74 1 0 1.0 13 275.19 Wagg, Graham Derbyshire 68.41 220.69 5 0 3.0 15 297.10 Bruce, James Hants 13.88 210.61 4 0 5.0 14 233.50 Batty, Gareth Worcs 75.89 198.23 7 2 1.0 14 284.12 Rashid, Adil Yorks 114.81 194.39 8 0 4.0 15 321.19 Shreck, Charles Notts 0.39 191.87 6 0 4.0 10 201.86 Tredwell, James Kent 64.65 187.68 11 0 3.0 14 266.33 Bresnan, Tim Yorks 82.81 187.57 6 0 4.0 15 280.38 Masters, David Leics 26.50 183.35 1 0 2.0 11 213.05 Kirby, Steven Gloucs 12.61 174.24 0 0 2.0 11 189.26 Onions, Graham Durham 25.36 172.97 2 0 6.0 11 206.32 Swann, Graeme Notts 58.72 162.81 8 0 6.0 15 235.13 Anyon, James Warks 30.15 160.21 4 0 2.0 14 196.35 Davies, Mark Durham 12.85 155.36 5 0 5.0 10 178.01 Murtagh, Tim Middx 25.80 152.97 1 0 5.0 13 184.36 Harris, James Glamorgan 21.39 147.26 3 0 1.0 9 172.65 Franks, Paul Notts 38.71 126.44 4 0 5.0 11 173.15 Greenidge, Carl Gloucs 11.20 122.41 2 0 2.0 8 137.61 Tahir, Naqaash Warks 12.38 116.36 0 0 2.0 11 130.75 Wigley, David Northants 26.25 112.87 4 0 4.0 9 146.32 Blackwell, Ian Somerset 79.60 109.80 1 0 10.0 14 199.01 Trego, Peter Somerset 110.64 108.22 3 0 10.0 16 230.06 Cosker, Dean Glamorgan 16.02 105.69 2 0 1.0 10 124.91 Banerjee, V Gloucs 5.31 103.37 2 0 3.0 11 113.48 Mascarenhas, D Hants 72.64 98.17 2 0 4.0 10 176.81 Middlebrook, J Essex 65.00 91.44 11 0 6.0 16 172.43 Newby, Oliver Lancs 6.25 86.12 1 0 4.0 8 97.37 Broad, Stuart Leics 20.97 85.64 0 0 1.0 5 107.41 Lucas, David Northants 25.70 83.91 1 0 2.0 9 112.82 Clarke, Rikki Surrey 54.39 78.74 10 1 1.0 10 145.12 Saker, Neil Surrey 10.27 77.11 1 0 1.0 8 89.38 Tremlett, Chris Hants 26.50 70.70 1 0 2.0 6 100.21 Schofield, C Surrey 14.82 69.68 3 0 2.0 6 89.50 Walker, N Leics 24.48 69.27 3 0 0.0 8 96.96 Hardinges, Mark Gloucs 39.43 66.12 4 0 1.0 9 111.15 Tudor, Alex Essex 11.44 61.33 2 0 4.0 10 78.37
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| My WAT England A team: Joe Denly (RHB - Kent) 21y Paul Horton (RHB - Lancashire) 25y Owais Shah (RHB - Middlesex) 28y Michael Carberry (LHB - Hampshire) 27y David Sales (RHB - Northamptonshire) 29y Ravi Bopara (RHB - Essex) 22y Tim Ambrose+ (RHB - Warwickshire) 24y Tim Bresnan (RHB/RA-MF - Yorkshire) 22y Graeme Swann (RHB/RA-OB - Nottinghamshire) 28y Stuart Broad (LHB/RA-FM - Leicestershire) 21y Chris Tremlett (RHB/RA-MF) - Hampshire) 26y After researching the major candidates I've ommitted many players from last years WAT team who had average or poor seasons by their standards. From last year's team I ommitted Nick Compton, Scott Newman, Michael Yardy, Ed Joyce, James Foster and Adil Rashid. Sajid Mahmood is not qualified due to having played more than 5 Test matches. Adil Rashid was rushed into the side last year as the specialist spinner based on half a season. I disagreed with his selection then as being too hasty and I think I was proven correct this year. I feel Rashid is developing into a batting all-rounder and could take the #6 batting spot in the future. However, Ravi Bopara seems to have that spot for some time unless he is disqualified for playing too many Test matches. Once again, due to a lack of experienced openers, I had to choose from a pool of young players. Denly and Horton impressed this year but could easily turn in poor seasons next year. A consistent opener is hard to find. On the otherhand, there is no shortage of good middle-order bats to choose from. Owais Shah has bounced back from an indifferent year last year and I think is ready for Test cricket. Michael Carberry has steadily improved and deserves his selection this year. David Sales is Mr Consistency and will be too old for consideration next year. His middle-order position will be keenly contested next year by Hildreth, Edwards and Patel. There is no shortage of good batsmen-keepers either. Foster is still a force but I think it's time to look for a younger man. Tim Ambrose, at 24y, should be a strong contender to replace Prior if and when that player's England career comes to an end. Tim Bresnan is my choice for third seamer. He's a proven bowling all-rounder who willl strengthen the lower-order. England is still undersupplied with quality specialist spinners. Rashid is primarily a batting all-rounder. That leaves Batty and Swann to choose from. Both had good seasons but Swann gets my vote as the younger of the two players. He will also be qualified next year unless he plays a few Test matches. The two main strike bowlers are Stuart Broad and Chris Tremlett from last years team. Both have impressed at International level and I'm sure both will figure in a few Test matches in the near future. Kabir Ali and Adil Rashid can consider themselves unlucky not to make my side this year. Last edited by Mike : 13-10-2007 at 10:49 AM. |
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Code: LVCC Points 2007 Player County Batting Bowling Field Capt. Wins Pld Pts Average 1 Gibson, Ottis Durham 96.66 406.71 6 0 6.0 15 515.37 34.36 2 Ahmed, Mushtaq Sussex 28.69 448.84 3 0 7.0 15 487.53 32.50 3 Warne, Shane Hants 66.12 270.10 19 15 5.0 15 375.22 25.01 4 Kaneria, Danish Essex 28.63 325.23 0 0 5.0 13 358.66 27.59 5 Ramprakash, Mark Surrey 342.37 -1.80 13 0 5.0 15 358.57 23.90 6 Caddick, Andrew Somerset 14.99 303.03 1 0 9.0 15 326.82 21.79 7 Rashid, Adil Yorks 114.81 194.39 8 0 4.0 15 321.19 21.41 8 Chapple, Glen Lancs 56.45 244.66 4 0 4.0 12 309.11 25.76 9 Naved-ul-Hasan, Rana Sussex 44.29 252.27 5 0 6.0 14 307.56 21.97 10 Willoughby, Charl Somerset 6.03 283.07 2 0 10.0 16 299.49 18.72 Code: Yorkshire 2007 - LV County Championship - Division One Name M I NO R HS Avge 100 50 Ct St J A Rudolph 15 22 3 1078 220 56.73 4 3 19 0 Younus Khan 13 19 2 824 217* 48.47 3 0 11 0 A McGrath 14 22 2 931 188* 46.55 3 6 11 0 A U Rashid 15 21 4 790 108 46.47 1 7 8 0 Now look at his return for the season as part of the Yorkshire line-up: Code: Name O M R W Avge Best 5w 10w M J Hoggard 205.4 47 644 32 20.12 5-32 2 0 D Gough 287.4 74 876 37 23.67 6-47 3 0 T T Bresnan 332.0 71 1090 34 32.05 4-10 0 0 A Shahzad 80.4 10 313 9 34.77 4-22 0 0 J N Gillespie 238.3 53 803 23 34.91 3-40 0 0 A U Rashid 412.2 46 1578 40 39.45 5-88 3 0 Younus Khan 85.5 10 342 8 42.75 4-52 0 0 Compare Rashid's season with those of a couple of other leg-spinners... including the newly resurgent Schofield, whose "Excellent domestic performances in the 2007 season saw him called up for the England Performance Programme in the winter of 2007-08" and who "was rewarded for his success in 2007 with a new two-year contract at Surrey"... Code: Name O M R W Avge Best 5w 10w S K Warne (Hampshire) 438.1 56 1479 50 29.58 6-83 5 1 A U Rashid (Yorkshire) 412.2 46 1578 40 39.45 5-88 3 0 C P Schofield (Surrey) 186.5 29 650 16 40.62 5-52 1 0 To my mind we've only got five certainties in this year's 'A' team: Shah, Bopara, Swann, Broad and Rashid - and to my mind the balance of the side needs to be arranged so that they all play, rather than decided in advance. ps. I'm fully expecting Rashid to be the third spinner for the forthcoming Test series in Sri Lanka: in the event of injury to Panesar or of Swann's current injury not clearing up... I'd expect him to play. Last edited by Rachael : 13-10-2007 at 08:58 PM. |
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