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Old 26-09-2007, 10:14 PM
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WAT England 'A' 2007 - nominations time
Right folks: the season is over and we're at selection time for the World-A-Team England 'A' side of 2007.

At this stage I want nothing more than declarations of interest from those wanting to participate and nominations for key contenders: if you think there's an opening batsman, middle order batsman, batsman who can bowl, gloveman, bowler who can bat or specialist bowler who should be shortlisted... please make the nomination in this thread.

Nominations could just be names.... but in an ideal world you should present the player's averages for the recently ended season... plus a comment on previous seasons... and an argument for taking the player seriously as a candidate.

Players should have figured prominently this season, should be under 30 years of age and should have played no more than 6 Tests (or have not played a Test in the last 2-3 seasons).

In due course I shall start polls on assorted threads to whittle nominations down to a shortlist of front-runners.

ps. What one has done to demand a place should count for at least as much as any judgement of "promise": this side can accomodate both seasoned county pros and interesting academy talents... but the former should hold SOME promise... and the latter should have done more than look promising!
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Unfulfilled potential is a sobering article that proves that potential is not enough to predict a successful international career. Temperament is equally important and maturity, I think, can improve temperament. Think carefully, before selecting players in their teens or have not demonstrated a measure of consistency. The trouble with the Young Cricketer of the Year Award is that it's based on one good season. One good season is not enough, in my opinion, to judge players for inclusion in the WAT A side. Look for players with a track record of constant improvement and consistency. I think players with those qualities will stand a good chance of adapting to the class and rigours of Test cricket.
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Well as far as opening bats are concerned Denly and Godleman need considering.The batting positions between 3-6 are going to cause much argument but Ravi Bopara who had a fantastic season is surely a certainty for a place.

As for the keeper,i think we need to look at Foster who again had a fine season and Ambrose who started brilliantly but tailed off towards the end with the bat,an honourable mention for Davies who had a wretched start to the season due to a family bereavement and clawed it back to be a respectable season,he won't be picked this year but he shouldn't be written off entirely as he may well come again.

The spin cupboard is bare and Rashid may well get selected for his extra batting ability but behind Panesar we don't appear to have much in the way of talent.

Bowlers,well Harris of Glamorgan who is only 17 and did very well in his debut season needs considering but again there aren't too many stand out candidates,Kabir Ali is about all that jumps out at me and possibly Charlie Shreck but i am open to suggestions for bowlers.

For me this year i am struggling,the 4 i want in the team are Denly,Bopara,Ambrose and Kabir Ali but after that i am undecided.
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The thing with Denly is; there is a large fear from the Kent membership (myself included) that he'll suffer the usual second-seasonitis. Opponents are going to know where his weaknesses lie, and add on his late-season loss of form - there is sufficient cause for concern.

That said, I still feel he is worthy of inclusion - just that he should not be an automatic choice.

Other choices: Ambrose or Mustard will be an interesting one, Rashid could well get in, but has he done enough with the ball to merit an all-rounder spot, and is he good enough to get in as a specialist bat? Bresnan - again, has he done enough with the ball for an all-rounder spot?
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The thing with Denly is; there is a large fear from the Kent membership (myself included) that he'll suffer the usual second-seasonitis. Opponents are going to know where his weaknesses lie,
adamberry, I think you raise an important point that some players can have a bad year after a good year and, I think, one of the reasons could be that the opposition have worked out their weaknesses and are exploiting them. A player may seem to be inconsistent but the real reason for loss of form is that the opposition have worked them out. That's why I prefer to pick players who have at least a couple of good seasons consecutively. So, I'll be looking at last season's form as well as this season's form when choosing my candidates.
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I haven't much time tonight but in addition to those mentioned I'll name the same players I named in the build-up thread:

Billy Godleman, Neill Edwards, Owais Shah, Ed Joyce, +Phil Mustard, Stuart Broad, Mark Davies, Chris Tremlett.
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Old 29-09-2007, 11:26 AM in reply to Collyisamackem's post starting "I haven't much time tonight but in..."
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Id suggest adding a few of these to the shortlist
David Sales (I know I suggest him every year but he scores a lot of runs every year), James Hildreth (If you want Neil Edwards...), Samit Patel, Paul Horton, Tim Lungley.
Thats about all I can think of at the moment, it could be a struggle to get up to a shortlist this year, maybe settle for a micro-list.
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Paul Horton - seconded Statto. I saw him towards the end of August and he did look a classy act. Easily as good, if not better than Stuart Law...
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First-class Batting and Fielding in England for 2007 (Ordered by Runs)

Name				Matches	Inns	Not Out	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	Ct	St
DJG Sales (Nr)			16	29	4	1384	219 	55.36	3	7	23	 
JC Hildreth (Sm)		17	26	2	1270	163 	52.91	4	6	15	 
NJ Edwards (Sm)			17	26	0	1251	212 	48.11	2	8	10	 
OA Shah (Eng,MCC,Mx,EngA)	13	22	6	1135	193 	70.93	4	2	10	 
PJ Horton (La)			14	25	2	1116	152 	48.52	3	5	17	 
MJ Brown (Ham)			16	29	4	1078	126*	43.12	3	5	14	 
MA Carberry (Ham)		13	24	3	1067	192*	50.80	5	3	2	 
APR Gidman (Gs,MCC)		17	29	4	1003	130 	40.12	3	5	10	 
JL Denly (Kent,EngA)		16	27	3	1003	115*	41.79	2	6	9	 
SD Peters (Nr)			16	30	2	966	112 	34.50	3	4	14	 
SR Patel (Nt)			14	20	1	963	176 	50.68	4	5	8	 
RS Bopara (Es,EngA)		12	18	2	960	229 	60.00	3	4	5	 
TJ New (Le)			16	29	3	957	125 	36.80	1	8	20	1
K Ali (Gs)			16	28	1	903	140 	33.44	2	4	8	 
GP Hodnett (Gs)			15	25	1	886	168 	36.91	2	6	8	 
SC Moore (Wo)			15	25	1	882	143 	36.75	2	3	7	 
SD Stubbings (Dy)		16	31	3	876	128 	31.28	2	2	7	 
TR Ambrose (Wk,EngA)		16	23	3	862	251*	43.10	1	4	39	 
BA Godleman (Mx)		15	24	2	842	113*	38.27	1	6	22	 
AU Rashid (MCC,Yor,EngA)	17	23	4	837	108 	44.05	1	7	9	 
PD Trego (Sm)			17	22	6	836	130 	52.25	2	5	4	 
CD Nash (Sx)			17	30	0	835	89 	27.83	0	7	10	 
JS Foster (Es)			15	23	1	827	204 	37.59	1	5	31	5
SA Newman (Sy)			15	25	0	812	124 	32.48	1	5	17	 
AGR Loudon (MCC,Wk)		16	24	1	782	105 	34.00	3	2	9	 
MJ Lumb (Ham)			16	25	0	775	89 	31.00	0	8	13	 
JHK Adams (Ham)			11	20	1	773	110 	40.68	1	5	10	 
IJ Westwood (Wk)		14	22	2	771	116 	38.55	2	5	8	 
JO Troughton (Wk)		14	19	1	771	162 	42.83	3	1	1	 
SM Davies (MCC,Wo)		16	27	3	753	87 	31.37	0	4	47	4
P Mustard (Dur)			17	31	2	743	76 	25.62	0	4	70	3
MH Yardy (Sx)			13	21	2	732	125 	38.52	2	5	11	 
RA White (Nr)			13	22	3	709	108 	37.31	1	3	9	 
EC Joyce (Mx)			14	20	2	704	106 	39.11	1	4	5	 
TT Bresnan (Yor,EngA)		16	21	7	679	126*	48.50	3	2	6	 
MA Wallace (Gm)			16	27	0	669	128 	24.77	2	1	40	6
ID Blackwell (Sm)		15	19	2	667	141 	39.23	1	5	2	 
V Chopra (Es)			16	26	3	649	86 	28.21	0	5	15	 
JJ Sayers (Yor)			14	22	3	644	187 	33.89	3	1	5	 
AJ Hodd (Sx)			14	21	5	628	123 	39.25	2	2	21	7
ML Pettini (Es)			17	27	1	604	86*	23.23	0	6	17	 
DJ Pipe (Dy)			14	21	5	577	133*	36.06	2	1	42	4
JK Maunders (Le)		13	22	0	575	97 	26.13	0	4	12	 
BM Shafayat (Nt)		12	19	1	560	79 	31.11	0	4	15	1
WR Smith (Dur)			12	23	0	551	105 	23.95	1	0	7	 
MH Wessels (Nr)			11	18	1	533	97 	31.35	0	3	28	2
GG Wagg (Dy)			15	21	4	530	82 	31.17	0	4	7	 
GJ Muchall (Dur)		12	22	1	520	66 	24.76	0	4	9	 
GP Swann (Nt)			16	20	4	516	97 	32.25	0	3	15	 
AD Mascarenhas (Ham)		10	16	2	489	90 	34.92	0	3	2	 
GJ Batty (Wo)			14	22	3	487	84 	25.63	0	3	7	 
IJL Trott (Wk,EngA)		15	22	1	473	84 	22.52	0	2	16	 
JC Tredwell (Kent)		14	19	2	454	116*	26.70	1	2	11	 
SJ Adshead (Gs)			13	18	1	447	99 	26.29	0	3	28	2
GP Rees (Gm)			10	18	0	429	109 	23.83	2	2	8	 
NRD Compton (MCC,Mx)		11	18	0	399	67 	22.16	0	3	6	 
BJM Scott (Mx)			11	14	3	389	112 	35.36	1	2	23	5
MD Stoneman (Dur)		8	15	0	369	101 	24.60	1	1	5	 
BW Harmison (Dur)		9	16	2	358	101 	25.57	1	2	7	 
RN Grant (Gm)			8	13	0	350	79 	26.92	0	2	1	 
NJ Dexter (Kent)		8	10	2	350	86 	43.75	0	3	6	 
CD Hopkinson (Sx)		10	17	0	347	83 	20.41	0	2	10	 
LJ Wright (Sx)			11	13	6	347	61 	49.57	0	3	3	 
MA Hardinges (Gs)		9	15	1	335	104 	23.92	1	1	6	 
BJ Wright (Gm)			11	18	2	329	108 	20.56	1	1	13	 
SJ Croft (La)			11	19	2	328	65 	19.29	0	2	12	 
GR Napier (Es)			10	10	3	317	125 	45.28	1	1	4	 
CC Benham (Ham)			9	14	0	312	76 	22.28	0	1	10	 
JWM Dalrymple (Mx)		12	17	2	305	57 	20.33	0	1	3	 
JL Sadler (Le)			10	17	0	304	45 	17.88	0	0	7	 
R Clarke (Sy)			10	14	1	301	68*	23.15	0	2	10	 
JGE Benning (Sy)		8	11	1	277	51 	27.70	0	1	5	 
PJ Franks (Nt)			11	13	1	275	92 	22.91	0	1	5	 
TJ Murtagh (Mx)			14	16	1	267	40 	17.80	0	0	2	 
SCJ Broad (Le,EngA)		6	7	2	247	91*	49.40	0	2	0	 
DD Masters (Le)			11	16	2	242	46 	17.28	0	0	1	 
CT Tremlett (Eng,Ham,EngA)	10	14	6	232	62*	29.00	0	1	3	 
SJ Walters (Sy)			8	12	1	228	70 	20.72	0	1	9	 
DH Wigley (Nr)			10	13	3	223	70 	22.30	0	2	6	 
DS Lucas (Nr)			9	13	4	215	37 	23.88	0	0	2	 
G Onions (Dur,MCC,EngA)		14	17	5	213	41 	17.75	0	0	3	 
K Ali (Wo)			14	19	0	211	39 	11.10	0	0	1	 
JE Anyon (Wk)			14	16	5	199	37*	18.09	0	0	3	 
JAR Harris (Gm)			9	14	2	196	87*	16.33	0	1	4	 
TJ Phillips (Es)		10	14	0	193	68 	13.78	0	1	4	 
T Lungley (Dy)			15	21	6	169	30*	11.26	0	0	5	 
NGE Walker (Le)			8	11	5	143	31 	23.83	0	0	4	 
DA Cosker (Gm)			11	16	2	137	30 	9.78	0	0	2	 
SP Kirby (Gs)			11	13	1	119	37 	9.91	0	0	1	 
AJ Tudor (Es)			10	13	3	112	35 	11.20	0	0	3	 
MN Malik (Nt,Wo)		14	19	8	104	24*	9.45	0	0	5	 
AM Davies (Dur,Nt)		11	13	5	102	35*	12.75	0	0	5	 
CG Greenidge (Gs)		8	11	1	95	27 	9.50	0	0	3	 
HT Waters (Gm)			10	16	8	87	33 	10.87	0	0	4
N Tahir (Wk)			11	11	1	87	32 	8.70	0	0	0	 
CP Schofield (Sy)		6	7	1	86	28 	14.33	0	0	3	 
JTA Bruce (Ham)			14	18	7	84	32 	7.63	0	0	4	 
NC Saker (Sy)			8	9	3	74	19 	12.33	0	0	1	 
OJ Newby (La)			9	8	1	48	26 	6.85	0	0	2	 
V Banerjee (Gs)			11	15	10	46	11*	9.20	0	0	3	 
CE Shreck (Nt)			11	11	8	4	3 	1.33	0	0	6
This list contains all the qualifiers so please confine your selections to these players. The minimum number of CC matches is 8, however, less than 8 is acceptable if the player was involved with international duties during the season. Wright, Broad and Schofield were involved in the Twenty20 world cup which prevented them playing the minimum 8 matches. Although, Will Jefferson and Tom Smith played in Bangladesh for England A before the County season both players only played in 6 Championship matches so neither player qualifies for selection this year. The blue names were selected in previous WAT A teams but haven't played more than 5 Test matches, yet (except Foster who is a special case).
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First-class Bowling in England for 2007 (Ordered by Wickets)

Name				Balls	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BB	Ave	5wI	10wM
T Lungley (Dy)			2615	106	1555	59	5-20	26.35	3	0
K Ali (Wo)			2393	75	1369	56	8-50	24.44	3	2
GG Wagg (Dy)			2952	94	1785	53	5-119	33.67	2	0
CE Shreck (Nt)			2405	94	1274	47	7-35	27.10	4	0
G Onions (Dur,MCC,EngA)		2377	77	1490	45	8-101	33.11	2	0
GP Swann (Nt)			2924	93	1503	45	7-100	33.40	1	1
AU Rashid (MCC,Yor,EngA)	2742	48	1813	43	5-88	42.16	3	0
TJ Murtagh (Mx)			1778	79	1044	42	6-87	24.85	1	0
DD Masters (Le)			1966	89	924	41	6-60	22.53	3	0
SP Kirby (Gs)			1876	73	961	41	5-41	23.43	3	1
JTA Bruce (Ham)			2117	71	1199	39	5-64	30.74	2	0
GJ Batty (Wo)			2937	104	1523	38	6-106	40.07	3	0
JC Tredwell (Kent)		2493	76	1285	36	6-47	35.69	1	0
AM Davies (Dur,Nt)		1756	81	824	34	7-59	24.23	1	0
DH Wigley (Nr)			1374	33	936	34	3-10	27.52	0	0
TT Bresnan (Yor,EngA)		2124	73	1157	34	4-10	34.02	0	0
JAR Harris (Gm)			1487	53	811	33	7-66	24.57	2	1
PD Trego (Sm)			1719	49	1131	33	4-49	34.27	0	0
PJ Franks (Nt)			1582	40	1090	32	3-28	34.06	0	0
JE Anyon (Wk)			2245	67	1424	32	4-55	44.50	0	0
ID Blackwell (Sm)		1947	77	860	29	3-8	29.65	0	0
DA Cosker (Gm)			1830	56	939	29	5-69	32.37	1	0
CT Tremlett (Eng,Ham,EngA)	1907	69	985	29	4-47	33.96	0	0
CG Greenidge (Gs)		1098	28	752	28	5-54	26.85	1	0
V Banerjee (Gs)			2093	57	1178	26	4-38	45.30	0	0
N Tahir (Wk)			1432	57	694	25	4-47	27.76	0	0
MN Malik (Nt,Wo)		2254	75	1470	25	3-94	58.80	0	0
SCJ Broad (Le,EngA)		964	21	602	24	5-67	25.08	2	0
OJ Newby (La)			1066	28	670	22	3-44	30.45	0	0
DS Lucas (Nr)			1212	29	751	19	5-49	39.52	1	0
NGE Walker (Le)			1026	27	777	18	4-70	43.16	0	0
AJ Tudor (Es)			1046	42	602	17	3-29	35.41	0	0
CP Schofield (Sy)		1121	29	650	16	5-52	40.62	1	0
MA Hardinges (Gs)		1290	45	822	16	3-59	51.37	0	0
AD Mascarenhas (Ham)		1140	56	481	15	4-33	32.06	0	0
R Clarke (Sy)			929	19	633	15	3-57	42.20	0	0
NC Saker (Sy)			936	33	649	15	5-76	43.26	1	0
HT Waters (Gm)			1209	31	741	15	4-76	49.40	0	0
SR Patel (Nt)			624	20	329	14	4-68	23.50	0	0
LJ Wright (Sx)			1011	21	619	14	3-117	44.21	0	0
RS Bopara (Es,EngA)		842	24	533	12	3-60	44.41	0	0
JWM Dalrymple (Mx)		1191	23	689	12	3-86	57.41	0	0
GR Napier (Es)			901	32	589	10	3-55	58.90	0	0
APR Gidman (Gs,MCC)		978	27	581	9	1-4	64.55	0	0
AGR Loudon (MCC,Wk)		1341	27	726	8	4-123	90.75	0	0
JL Denly (Kent,EngA)		403	15	203	6	2-13	33.83	0	0
TJ Phillips (Es)		426	11	246	6	3-28	41.00	0	0
SJ Croft (La)			474	11	286	6	3-40	47.66	0	0
The bowling stats will help you select your bowlers and all-rounders.
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