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Old 12-11-2005, 03:11 AM
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Struggle for power within ZC

This is the thread to place all discussion and updates on the struggle for power within Zimbabwe Cricket. For those on the outside, players and senior administrators in Zimbabwe are calling for Chairman Peter Chingoka to stand down. Some stories so far:

Chingoka clinging on after day of attacks
Chingoka fights back as battle intensifies
Martin Williamson comment: An undignified exit looms

Tatenda Taibu has been forced into hiding over his press conference yesterday. Zimbabwe Cricket is well past the crossroads, I don't think we'll ever get back, but it's just a matter of whether or not we've driven off the cliff yet.
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Old 22-11-2005, 11:02 PM in reply to Paoli's post "Struggle for power within ZC"
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basically because political intrusion in society is so much an accepted part of life ...everyone of influence ultimately serves "the party".

so, as for the future - that will ultimately depend on whether mdc returns to its roots...where is gwisai??(there was a loss imo)
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Old 02-12-2005, 10:22 AM in reply to butchering lee's post starting "basically because political intrusion..."
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Clive Field, the players' representative, said that, if true, it would have a "huge impact". He added that "the ICC and the big stakeholders need to get involved and realise they have to do something.
This follows the news that Chingoka and Bvute houses have been raided!! Goes to prove that under Mugabe noboby is safe....

Course the ICC will do nothing!!

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"There is a daily report on the Zimbabwe issue, but the ICC policy, which is made by its member countries and applicable to all, leave the internal matters to the respective country. At the ICC we think basically all internal matters should be dealt by the country concerned.
This is only my opinion, but I do feel that with the ZCU in crisis and with the players refusing to play. It is time for Zimbabwe to be suspended until these matters are resoloved...
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Old 02-12-2005, 10:26 AM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "This follows the news that Chingoka and..."
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I do feel that with the ZCU in crisis and with the players refusing to play. It is time for Zimbabwe to be suspended until these matters are resoloved...
Absolutely. Things are really getting sinister in Zimbabwe when your 22-year-old captain retires from cricket and goes into hiding for his own safety. The Zimbabwean administration should be told they have no place in international cricket while this continues. And who is going to want to go to tour Zimbabwe now. This is at now as bad as South Africa and apartheid.
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Old 02-12-2005, 10:38 AM in reply to Mongoose's post starting "Absolutely. Things are really getting..."
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Exactly Mongoose.If South Africa were rightly banned for apartheid then why should Zimbabwe be allowed to carry on under their current situation.They can't even argue that they have a team worthy of playing international cricket as all the best players have quit.
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:09 AM in reply to greg's post starting "Exactly Mongoose.If South Africa were..."
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Greg,

I could be wrong here, but initllally South Africa were not banned. What happend was that sides such as England and Australia refused to tour and prevented their players form touring (India, West Indies and Pakistan didn't tour there anyway).

The problem is now the ICC has it's "future tours programme" which means that each team must play each other at home and abroad within a set period.

There are only two reasons why a side is prevented from touring

1. Specfic Instruction from a Government
2. Safety Concerns of the players

Therefore a board, such as the ECB, cannot decide to boycott a country, as was the case with South Africa,
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:18 AM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "Greg, I could be wrong here, but..."
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There are only two reasons why a side is prevented from touring

1. Specfic Instruction from a Government
2. Safety Concerns of the players

Therefore a board, such as the ECB, cannot decide to boycott a country, as was the case with South Africa,
All the more reason or the ICC to act now.
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:30 AM in reply to Mongoose's post starting "All the more reason or the ICC to act..."
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All the more reason or the ICC to act now.
Mongoose, the fear is that they will not do anything. If you read all of Speed's comments he talks about as an internal issue and therefore should be resoloved internally.

The good thing is - if the country is not safe for the former Captian, The MD and Chief-Exec of the board, how can it be deemed safe for a touring team.

The big stumbling block has been the BCCI who have been committed to mainting the ZCU status, under the Dalmayia regime. Those days are gone and it will be intersting to see waht Pawar's take on it is. I feel he may be less dogmatic.
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:58 AM in reply to flanflinger's post starting "Mongoose, the fear is that they will..."
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Mongoose, the fear is that they will not do anything. If you read all of Speed's comments he talks about as an internal issue and therefore should be resoloved internally.
... which, as most people realise, is nonesense. The situation in Zim has caused problems for England and other touring teams recently. How can it be purely an internal issue when, for a test match to take place, another team has to be on the pitch. The Zimbabwe situation affects whoever is made to play against them. That means considerations of the political, sporting and safety issues whenever Zimbabwe play. I fear the ICC is burying its head in the sand over this issue.
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I fear the ICC is burying its head in the sand over this issue.
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